VAR

[Marcus Kendall]

Slit must have had a word.

He was complaining about it on the touchline and VAR pour over it looking to appease him because the RS had the temerity of having a bad VAR decision against them last match

 

[HappyJack]

The second Forest goal was disallowed for handball?! Hit his chest

 

[Bebeto]

The second Forest goal was disallowed for handball?! Hit his chest

Var did not intervene...ref give it handball even if he did not have a clue. Obviously var should have intervene, but then this is anfield right.

 

[HappyJack]

Var did not intervene...ref give it handball even if he did not have a clue. Obviously var should have intervene, but then this is anfield right.

Its getting ludicrous. BergenReds now 0-2 …only surprise is it wasnt disallowed!

 

[Tel001]

I think VAR should be there for the ref to use when he’s not sure .

I think every penalty given should result in the ref going to the monitor ( no audio or input from VAR ) and he gets to take a look at it and tells them what angle etc and they do not provide an opinion .

He can then confirm his original decision or change it if he thinks he is wrong .

This takes away the subconscious bias of when he is told to go to the monitor as that suggests that a mistake may have been made.

By making it a part of giving a pen … it’s removed that.

Red cards or second yellows should also be an automatic monitor check by the infield ref .

That way the refs run the game and use it for when their view is obstructed or if they aren’t 100% sure.

Failing that …. They should just have the same 1-2 refs in the VAR room every week.

That way it’s the same person and should improve the consistency at least of how it’s being used . If it’s the same person all the time or a smaller group of people …. Even though it’s subjective …. It’s the same thought process every week as it’s the same person

But my preference is for the ref to use the pitch side monitor as HE feels HE needs it . Thats way he can make decisions on the pitch and then go and review it if he’s got any doubt and then confirm or change his original call.

Obviously this won’t help with “offside lines” but it would be a huge step in the right direction for the other stuff

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I think VAR should be there for the ref to use when he’s not sure .

I think every penalty given should result in the ref going to the monitor ( no audio or input from VAR ) and he gets to take a look at it and tells them what angle etc and they do not provide an opinion .

He can then confirm his original decision or change it if he thinks he is wrong .

This takes away the subconscious bias of when he is told to go to the monitor as that suggests that a mistake may have been made.

By making it a part of giving a pen … it’s removed that.

Red cards or second yellows should also be an automatic monitor check by the infield ref .

That way the refs run the game and use it for when their view is obstructed or if they aren’t 100% sure.

Failing that …. They should just have the same 1-2 refs in the VAR room every week.

That way it’s the same person and should improve the consistency at least of how it’s being used . If it’s the same person all the time or a smaller group of people …. Even though it’s subjective …. It’s the same thought process every week as it’s the same person

But my preference is for the ref to use the pitch side monitor as HE feels HE needs it . Thats way he can make decisions on the pitch and then go and review it if he’s got any doubt and then confirm or change his original call.

Obviously this won’t help with “offside lines” but it would be a huge step in the right direction for the other stuff

Don't be daft lad this is too much common sense for the powers that be and it doesn't allow them to use VAR to manipulate results to 'enhance' the product for their preferred outcomes

 

[Swagger]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Harvey Barnes handball on the line at 0-3 before the 60 minute mark. Regulation red card and penalty. Potential game changer despite the performance yet not awarded. Had the ball not been handballed by Barnes then the ball goes in the goal so any defence of his arm being near his sides is surely not relevant as the handball clearly prevented a goal on the line!

 

[MACCA75]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Harvey Barnes handball on the line at 0-3 before the 60 minute mark. Regulation red card and penalty. Potential game changer despite the performance yet not awarded. Had the ball not been handballed by Barnes then the ball goes in the goal so any defence of his arm being near his sides is surely not relevant as the handball clearly prevented a goal on the line!

It’s a good point, could easily have been given as a penalty. If it was deemed not deliberate (likely), then it would have been a yellow rather than a red.

 

[Swagger]

It’s a good point, could easily have been given as a penalty. If it was deemed not deliberate (likely), then it would have been a yellow rather than a red.

True. It's a subjective decision of whether it's yellow or red. It looked deliberate. Why else keep your hand in that position other than to scoop it of the line and save a goal?

 

[OneTrueLegend]

Inconsistency with VAR still frustrate me. We have idiots working for VAR.

Just watching Brighton Vs West ham and Rutter has scored, in the build up, he handled the ball, had a shot, it was saved, 2nd shot came in, saved again, then Rutter scored on the 3rd shot.

This was allowed by VAR because handball is deemed “accidental” and didn’t directly contribute to a goal. But surely the he gained an advantage and was able to make the first shot?

So Barry’s goal against Newcastle was only disallowed because he scored straight after an accidental hand ball? If he had taken 3 shots to score it would have been fine? Some how I doubt it.

 

[blulouie]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Harvey Barnes handball on the line at 0-3 before the 60 minute mark. Regulation red card and penalty. Potential game changer despite the performance yet not awarded. Had the ball not been handballed by Barnes then the ball goes in the goal so any defence of his arm being near his sides is surely not relevant as the handball clearly prevented a goal on the line!

Surprised that we didnt kick off over that , its a goalbound effort and certain goal yet nothing from VAR.
Moyes should be blowing a gasket over it , but like always remains sheepish.
Puts Barry's "Accidental" handball into perspective.

 

[Seathestars]

Terrible these cartoons they are using now.
Last night they only showed the Liverpool player and the ball, to try and show he was behind the ball, but real pictures today show is shoulder offside.
Same with this Fulham disallowed goal today, using cartoons to show the offside, why now just show the real picture, real players.
It's like watching the Simpsons

 

[MACCA75]

Inconsistency with VAR still frustrate me. We have idiots working for VAR.

Just watching Brighton Vs West ham and Rutter has scored, in the build up, he handled the ball, had a shot, it was saved, 2nd shot came in, saved again, then Rutter scored on the 3rd shot.

This was allowed by VAR because handball is deemed “accidental” and didn’t directly contribute to a goal. But surely the he gained an advantage and was able to make the first shot?

So Barry’s goal against Newcastle was only disallowed because he scored straight after an accidental hand ball? If he had taken 3 shots to score it would have been fine? Some how I doubt it.

It’s the rule I’m afraid. Accidental handball and then ‘immediately’ scoring a goal. If it had taken Barry 3 attempts to score then yes, would surely have to be given as a goal.

If you want them to look for accidental handballs somewhere in the build up to a goal, then I’m just not in for that.