Times Article on Football Tourism.....featuring Everton

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Interesting article in today's Times on football tourism and ticketing. We feature.... in case the link cant be opened, Ive edited our bit in text as below.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...d-tickets-to-watch-palace-v-burnley-tvfzd8zb8


Fly 5,700 miles and buy overpriced tickets – to watch Palace v Burnley

Alyson Rudd looks at the growing cult of football tourism in Great Britain

.........On Easter Saturday I stood at the StubHub desk at Goodison Park and saw a queue that snaked almost out of sight. The Everton Supporters Trust had issued an open letter critical of the club’s association with StubHub, the ticket-exchange company, and said that tickets worth £45 had been put on sale for £145 for the visit of Burnley.

I met Megan and Brian from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for whom this was their first trip to England. The match was the focal point, the reason for being here at all. “I think it will be the best thing we do,” said Brian, who loves Everton thanks to Tim Howard, the American goalkeeper who spent ten years at Goodison.

A steward stood next to the queue watching over visitors like a possessive mother duck and said it was his job to help out anyone who seemed disorientated and point out which stand they needed. A father and son from Oslo stood icily to one side. Their tickets were not there but in a flash a club official was at hand to find a solution.

“It’s like if you open a new bank account you get a free pair of slippers but what about if you’ve been with the same bank or company 30 years?” asks George McKane, spokesman for the Everton Supporters Trust.

He does not object in principle to overseas visitors and will even pick them up from the airport, but he is worried about “selfie-stick supporters” who are there mainly to support an event rather than a team.

“A family friend from Poland wanted a ticket for Anfield and I told him he was more likely to get one applying from Poland,” he said. “I’d like to meet people saying, ‘I support Exeter because I come from there.’ Football has become incredibly gentrified.”

From the club’s perspective a deal with a ticket agency offers a secure way for fans to sell on seats that they cannot use and it is the fans’ choice how much they want to profit from selling on.

..........If money can be made, then the temptation is too strong for most and the demand is there. In the Goodison queue there was a father and son over from Dublin and the son visibly blanched when I asked the cost of what was a birthday gift for his dad.

The visitors who most rile fans are those such as the couple from California who were at Goodison because they could not get tickets to Old Trafford, the joint most popular football tourist destination along with the Emirates. They were unlikely to sing, unlikely to be blown away, unlikely even to spend much in the club shop — but for all the ticket transfer schemes, there is no way of testing what kind of fan, besotted, enthusiastic, pragmatic or equivocal, will end up sitting in your ground come kick-off.



 

Interesting article in today's Times on football tourism and ticketing. We feature.... in case the link cant be opened, Ive edited our bit in text as below.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/fly-5-700-miles-and-buy-overpriced-tickets-to-watch-palace-v-burnley-tvfzd8zb8

Fly 5,700 miles and buy overpriced tickets – to watch Palace v Burnley

Alyson Rudd looks at the growing cult of football tourism in Great Britain

.........On Easter Saturday I stood at the StubHub desk at Goodison Park and saw a queue that snaked almost out of sight. The Everton Supporters Trust had issued an open letter critical of the club’s association with StubHub, the ticket-exchange company, and said that tickets worth £45 had been put on sale for £145 for the visit of Burnley.

I met Megan and Brian from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for whom this was their first trip to England. The match was the focal point, the reason for being here at all. “I think it will be the best thing we do,” said Brian, who loves Everton thanks to Tim Howard, the American goalkeeper who spent ten years at Goodison.

A steward stood next to the queue watching over visitors like a possessive mother duck and said it was his job to help out anyone who seemed disorientated and point out which stand they needed. A father and son from Oslo stood icily to one side. Their tickets were not there but in a flash a club official was at hand to find a solution.

“It’s like if you open a new bank account you get a free pair of slippers but what about if you’ve been with the same bank or company 30 years?” asks George McKane, spokesman for the Everton Supporters Trust.

He does not object in principle to overseas visitors and will even pick them up from the airport, but he is worried about “selfie-stick supporters” who are there mainly to support an event rather than a team.

“A family friend from Poland wanted a ticket for Anfield and I told him he was more likely to get one applying from Poland,” he said. “I’d like to meet people saying, ‘I support Exeter because I come from there.’ Football has become incredibly gentrified.”

From the club’s perspective a deal with a ticket agency offers a secure way for fans to sell on seats that they cannot use and it is the fans’ choice how much they want to profit from selling on.

..........If money can be made, then the temptation is too strong for most and the demand is there. In the Goodison queue there was a father and son over from Dublin and the son visibly blanched when I asked the cost of what was a birthday gift for his dad.

The visitors who most rile fans are those such as the couple from California who were at Goodison because they could not get tickets to Old Trafford, the joint most popular football tourist destination along with the Emirates. They were unlikely to sing, unlikely to be blown away, unlikely even to spend much in the club shop — but for all the ticket transfer schemes, there is no way of testing what kind of fan, besotted, enthusiastic, pragmatic or equivocal, will end up sitting in your ground come kick-off.



Thanks for the article mate, very interesting - I've put it again here in a text size that doesn't require a Sherlock Holmes style magnifying glass!!
 
I regularly have to buy ridiculously expensive train tickets and book hotels to travel from Wales to go up and see Everton.

Nothing wrong with it lid.
 
Lad near me against Chelsea got his from stubhub ( normally a season ticket holder there) and had a half and half scarf on! First one I've seen to be honest, didn't know they sold them at Goodison, hope but doubt it's the last one I see.
 
It is a well established phenomena sadly. On a bitterley cold Tuesday evening January 3 Palace played Swansea and I gave up my usual seat in the Upper Holmesdale so that I could sit with a mate who comes occasionally. I got a pair of tickets in the Arthur Waite in the block adjacent to the away fans.
Nothing but tourists and selfie sticks. Hideous experience.
 

Lad near me against Chelsea got his from stubhub ( normally a season ticket holder there) and had a half and half scarf on! First one I've seen to be honest, didn't know they sold them at Goodison, hope but doubt it's the last one I see.
Only daytrippers get half n half scarves surely?
 
It is a well established phenomena sadly. On a bitterley cold Tuesday evening January 3 Palace played Swansea and I gave up my usual seat in the Upper Holmesdale so that I could sit with a mate who comes occasionally. I got a pair of tickets in the Arthur Waite in the block adjacent to the away fans.
Nothing but tourists and selfie sticks. Hideous experience.
 
I was at the Chelsea game last week. First visit for some time. I was struck by the number of foreign languages and foreign accents around me. I think it's no bad thing really.

The worry some people have about a loss of atmosphere if lots of fans are tourists is legitimate. But it's inevitable in the modern game. In fact the roar that greeted Z cars and every Everton corner was as loud as ever.

It will be a big issue in our final season at Goodison as it's such an architecturally revered ground that tickets will be much sought after by all sorts of visitors.

And the new ground will attract tourists and football aficionados alike. It'll need to if we are to ensure a full house week in week out.

I'll always regret the passing of the old crowded terraces and the Goodison of my boyhood. But the games moved on. Selfie sticks welcome for me....quite pleased that we are getting more exposure now.
 

Lad near me against Chelsea got his from stubhub ( normally a season ticket holder there) and had a half and half scarf on! First one I've seen to be honest, didn't know they sold them at Goodison, hope but doubt it's the last one I see.

I was at the Chelsea game last week. First visit for some time. I was struck by the number of foreign languages and foreign accents around me. I think it's no bad thing really.

The worry some people have about a loss of atmosphere if lots of fans are tourists is legitimate. But it's inevitable in the modern game. In fact the roar that greeted Z cars and every Everton corner was as loud as ever.

It will be a big issue in our final season at Goodison as it's such an architecturally revered ground that tickets will be much sought after by all sorts of visitors.

And the new ground will attract tourists and football aficionados alike. It'll need to if we are to ensure a full house week in week out.

I'll always regret the passing of the old crowded terraces and the Goodison of my boyhood. But the games moved on. Selfie sticks welcome for me....quite pleased that we are getting more exposure now.
I got my brother's ticket for last week from stub hub and in the few minutes it took to collect I heard/saw/spoke to people from Sacandinavia, Hong Kong, France who just fancied seeing a game and I already knew there was a group from Bankok I had met before the West Ham game the previous week who where keen Everton fans from the Bangkok supporters club.
What did shock me a bit for the first time I saw a small number of Chelsea fans in the St End wearing colours!!!! Amazed the stewards tolerated it although one was thrown out celebrating.
 
Interesting article in today's Times on football tourism and ticketing. We feature.... in case the link cant be opened, Ive edited our bit in text as below.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...d-tickets-to-watch-palace-v-burnley-tvfzd8zb8


Fly 5,700 miles and buy overpriced tickets – to watch Palace v Burnley

Alyson Rudd looks at the growing cult of football tourism in Great Britain

.........On Easter Saturday I stood at the StubHub desk at Goodison Park and saw a queue that snaked almost out of sight. The Everton Supporters Trust had issued an open letter critical of the club’s association with StubHub, the ticket-exchange company, and said that tickets worth £45 had been put on sale for £145 for the visit of Burnley.

I met Megan and Brian from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for whom this was their first trip to England. The match was the focal point, the reason for being here at all. “I think it will be the best thing we do,” said Brian, who loves Everton thanks to Tim Howard, the American goalkeeper who spent ten years at Goodison.

A steward stood next to the queue watching over visitors like a possessive mother duck and said it was his job to help out anyone who seemed disorientated and point out which stand they needed. A father and son from Oslo stood icily to one side. Their tickets were not there but in a flash a club official was at hand to find a solution.

“It’s like if you open a new bank account you get a free pair of slippers but what about if you’ve been with the same bank or company 30 years?” asks George McKane, spokesman for the Everton Supporters Trust.

He does not object in principle to overseas visitors and will even pick them up from the airport, but he is worried about “selfie-stick supporters” who are there mainly to support an event rather than a team.

“A family friend from Poland wanted a ticket for Anfield and I told him he was more likely to get one applying from Poland,” he said. “I’d like to meet people saying, ‘I support Exeter because I come from there.’ Football has become incredibly gentrified.”

From the club’s perspective a deal with a ticket agency offers a secure way for fans to sell on seats that they cannot use and it is the fans’ choice how much they want to profit from selling on.

..........If money can be made, then the temptation is too strong for most and the demand is there. In the Goodison queue there was a father and son over from Dublin and the son visibly blanched when I asked the cost of what was a birthday gift for his dad.

The visitors who most rile fans are those such as the couple from California who were at Goodison because they could not get tickets to Old Trafford, the joint most popular football tourist destination along with the Emirates. They were unlikely to sing, unlikely to be blown away, unlikely even to spend much in the club shop — but for all the ticket transfer schemes, there is no way of testing what kind of fan, besotted, enthusiastic, pragmatic or equivocal, will end up sitting in your ground come kick-off.


u dont like the fans buddy??
 
As we have recently seen, the local reds supporters complain about the tourists at Anfield. It dilutes the traditional vibe. The locals/tourists ratio at Anfield must be pretty close. The tourists inflate the attendance at Anfield because the locals don't go in numbers. I don't know one red who goes the match, seriously. It has been like this for at least 20 years.

Everton's attendance is mainly just local people. I don't know why this is the case. I know loads of blues who attend Goodison. I know a couple of reds who attend Goodison at least twice per season, but not Anfield. Local blues will know exactly what I'm talking about. It is amusing, albeit very strange.

I know more local Evertonians will attend the match once Bramley Moore is built. The locals/tourists ratio will be heavily in favour of the locals at Bramley Moore, so I'm not worried about the same thing that has happened at LFC, happening to us.
 
Am happy for blues from across the world to be at the game- the more the merrier- just no half and half scarves, ipads and selfie sticks please!
 

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