They're forcing kids to stay in school till their 17

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I do not approve

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In isolation, such a measure will do little to change anything and may even make things worse. However, IF the school leaving age was raised to 18 AND the qualifications on exit were actually useful, AND class sizes were reduced across the board, AND the school calendar was updated so that it no longer adhered to a now-defunct agricultural timetable AND there was a charge of £50 per month per child levied to provide extra funding for state education, then we'd start seeing improvements.

Hand in hand with kids staying in school longer, the minimum ages for drinking, smoking, voting and driving should all be raised to at least 20, and state pension age should be raised by a year every year until they are at 72 for men and women, reflecting the MASSIVE change in life expectancy in this country since the inception of the welfare state.

If we let children remain children for as long as possible AND provide a proper education for them, AND slow our birth rate down, AND delay entitlement to pension payments, we MIGHT start making a dent in the looming pensions crisis AND unemployment figures. I would prefer that people under 21 were in education rather than in the benefits system, and by slowing the entry of young people into the job market we allow the older workforce to stay in employment for longer, meaning that they don't claim state pensions for as long AND they pay more in.
 
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Never going to have the desired results.

Education is always going to benefit some people more than others, and some hardly at all. That's just the way it is with any public service provision.

I'm more for education into adulthood. You know jack sh!t when you're 17 or 18, least of all about the path you want to take in life. It's no surprise that lots of graduates these days suffer workplace burnout still in their 20s. Collering our kids with more expectations will only increase that trend.
 
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That maybe you should have researched it, to avoid coming to the wrong conclusion.

The rules are that you either stay on in full time education, or work based education i.e. an apprenticeship or be in part time education or part take in voluntary work that's at least 20 hrs per week

All it's doing is removing the option of being 16 & sat on your hoop playing X box.

It's a good piece of legislation, that was created in 2008 btw.
 
You know jack sh!t when you're 17 or 18, least of all about the path you want to take in life. It's no surprise that lots of graduates these days suffer workplace burnout still in their 20s. Collering our kids with more expectations will only increase that trend.

I think this is very, very true for a LOT of school leavers, and the problem can't be solved simply in isolated adjustment to the school system. If you increase or slow the supply of young people entering employment (and, by extension, unemployment) by altering the age at which compulsory education ceases, you have knock-on effects in the welfare and benefits sytem, the taxation system, housing provision, demand upon public transport and the number of job vacancies. It's not a simple, linear problem. And all the time GCSEs are so easy to pass, they don't actually prepare people who leave education at that stage for very much at all.

Fair enough not everyone is academic but leaving education with two GCSEs at grade D and no other skills or qualifications must be bloddy daunting. Further compulsory education for the less academic, filling the gap left by the old technical colleges, might be a good idea? Just one extra year of the current system will make no difference to those who already don't benefit from it.
 
I just think there should be choice in the matter

I was given the choice to leave school or go to college. I went to college and loved it, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone.

My fear is that people will be forced into eduaction who don't want to eb and they will disrupt it for everyone else. It's not fair to them, their fellow students or their teachers

I just don't think the state should have the right to take away a persons right to choose
 
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I just think there should be choice in the matter

I was given the choice to leave school or go to college. I went to college and loved it, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone.

My fear is that people will be forced into eduaction who don't want to eb and they will disrupt it for everyone else. It's not fair to them, their fellow students or their teachers

I just don't think the state should have the right to take away a persons right to choose

They've got a choice, either stay in education, get on an apprenticeship scheme, go to college full time or part time or do voluntary work.

The only 'choice' that's been removed is sitting on their hoops ffs.
 

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