The Working Class Game

[chicoazul]

We've touched on this a few times, about the spiralling player wages and parasite agents feeding off them and turning their head for a quick ten percent.

What were seeing is more and more fans alienated from the game they were once in love with it. There's a whole generation of cocksuckers coming through to replace them like, with their sh*te hair cuts, zany ways and Soccer AM worship.

Anyway, seen this.

http://www.themerseyjuror.co.uk/2011/09/13/banter-and-humour-replaced-by-greed-and-pressure/?

 

[best little spaniard]

A world wide wage cap is needed really. Something like 30-50k. That'd sort the whole lot right out. Prices would fall, and clubs probably wouldn't have anywhere near as much debt.

It'll never happen though. Ever

 

[chrissyjack]

I can remember, a long time ago, just deciding to go to the match that Sat morning. X7 bus from Ellesmere Port to Liverpool , and walk from Lime Street. Choose any part of the ground you wanted to go in and pay on the turnstile.With HT eats, it all came to less than £10. the last time I took my eldest lad it cost £50 just for the tickets. Which I had to buy online on the EFC website. Add the cost of petrol from Blackpool and food.....I simply cannot afford to go. Even if I plan to take him for his birthday in April, there is no guarantee that I can get tickets

 

[Woolly Blue]

I can remember, a long time ago, just deciding to go to the match that Sat morning. X7 bus from Ellesmere Port to Liverpool , and walk from Lime Street. Choose any part of the ground you wanted to go in and pay on the turnstile.With HT eats, it all came to less than £10. the last time I took my eldest lad it cost £50 just for the tickets. Which I had to buy online on the EFC website. Add the cost of petrol from Blackpool and food.....I simply cannot afford to go. Even if I plan to take him for his birthday in April, there is no guarantee that I can get tickets

Yep, without wishing to sound too much like a grumpy old man I can remember thinking, "nice day, sun's shining, Blue's at home ... off we go" and into Goodison for a fiver. The whole Premier League situation is a classic bubble. The bubble can only continue to be blown up if the people who pay for it, continue to do so .... which is the fans, either by paying for tickets or SkySports. The bubble will eventually burst, and it'll be burst by the Internet and streaming or something else entirely.

All Bubbles burst, if Michael Jackson were still alive I could make a witty point about Michael bursting his Bubbles, but he isn't so I can't.

 

[The Esk]

Interesting subject Chico !

You could argue that the moment the PFA won the battle to abolish the maximum wage cap in football, over 50 years ago in January 1961 that footballers themselves ceased to be working class and the game gradually moved away from its fan-base. Obviously that has accelerated in recent years with the amount of TV rights money entering the game, but as an example of how long ago football ceased to be "working class" Bob Latchford was Everton's first £50,000 per annum footballer back in 1978.

How many of the readership of this forum would like to earn £50,000 in 2011? 33 years on.......

 

[chicoazul]

puts hand up*

 

[Woolly Blue]

Interesting subject Chico !

You could argue that the moment the PFA won the battle to abolish the maximum wage cap in football, over 50 years ago in January 1961 that footballers themselves ceased to be working class and the game gradually moved away from its fan-base. Obviously that has accelerated in recent years with the amount of TV rights money entering the game, but as an example of how long ago football ceased to be "working class" Bob Latchford was Everton's first £50,000 per annum footballer back in 1978.

How many of the readership of this forum would like to earn £50,000 in 2011? 33 years on.......

Not prepared to take such a large pay cut
*pushing pinnochio type nose back into face

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It's about as working class as rugby union. League is probably the most working class team game remaining.

 

[EFCNIK]

What's wrong with Soccer AM? I like it, when I get the chance to watch it that is.

 

[EFCNIK]

And also just because somethings not working class why is it bad? I actually find that working class people are more snobby towards middle class than vise versa, or just as much. You dont have to be rich to be a snob. The working class seem to complain about being victimised or whatever, yet there's just as much nose turning coming from them. I come from a mixture of both. A fairly middle class environment to working class parents with a lot of working class values. I find it easier to hang out with more 'salt of the earth' people dont get me wrong, but I also have a lot of very middle class friends. I kind of consider myself in the middle tbh. The working class would laugh at me if I said I was because I've had it easy to be honest, but the way I speak and the values I hold arn't middle class either.

 

[steken1]

I'd like to see a wage cap of max £20,000 a week. Loads of foreigners would leave and clubs would have the money to invest in academies which would see the country produce ten rooneys a year instead of one a decade.

The players would still be uber rich and make a fortune from outside football, the english game would be healthier and good clubs who have been around for hundreds of years wouldn't be passing the begging bowl around just to stay in business.

 

[EFCNIK]

I'd like to see a wage cap of max £20,000 a week. Loads of foreigners would leave and clubs would have the money to invest in academies which would see the country produce ten rooneys a year instead of one a decade.

The players would still be uber rich and make a fortune from outside football, the english game would be healthier and good clubs who have been around for hundreds of years wouldn't be passing the begging bowl around just to stay in business.

Sadly it will never happen.

 

[steken1]

I know,

Someone posted about disconenct fans feel from the club but to me it's the whole game now. FIFA are bent as a 9 bob note, the players are greedy no marks, the chairmen are using clubs for all kinds of nefarious reasons and were paying for the lot.

If football went bust tomorrow, including us I'd be made up.

 

[Cena]

It's about as working class as rugby union. League is probably the most working class team game remaining.

For once i agree with Bruce. We have let the middle-class come into footy though. Still believe the majority of football fans are of the working class

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

How many of the readership of this forum would like to earn £50,000 in 2011? 33 years on.......

I haven't earned that in the last 3 years combined, in fact in the past I've done 3 years of shifts to earn that.

And also just because somethings not working class why is it bad? I actually find that working class people are more snobby towards middle class than vise versa, or just as much. You dont have to be rich to be a snob. The working class seem to complain about being victimised or whatever, yet there's just as much nose turning coming from them. I come from a mixture of both. A fairly middle class environment to working class parents with a lot of working class values. I find it easier to hang out with more 'salt of the earth' people dont get me wrong, but I also have a lot of very middle class friends. I kind of consider myself in the middle tbh. The working class would laugh at me if I said I was because I've had it easy to be honest, but the way I speak and the values I hold arn't middle class either.

Everyone daarn saarth is middle class aren't they ? According to them anyway, such as Nik, come on then tell us what makes you middle class ? 'cos NOBODY in Luton is middle class*, you just all relate to working class as cloth capped Northerners, plenty round here seem to think themselves middle class too, with no basis whatsoever.
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*not even Nick Owen.