The Perennial Underdog

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PeterMeter

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Sitting in the office, monday morning being what it is, after another let down of a result from the boys in blue I just had a thought that's been going on loop since I sat down in front of the computer. It started off as a short tweet but after that initial burst of frustration I've been trying to analyze why we are where we're at, and if there's any chance of us ever being something else. Something more.

From the first time I started following Everton back in the early 90's the charm of the toffees (ugh) were their all-consuming dark and gloomy underdog status. My dad had been a closet-blue for several years but being what we are, and were, you were left to the occassional airing vs one of the bigger teams of that era. In Sweden Glenn Hyséns influence from his Liverpool-days in the late 80's to early 90's can still be felt as he created a connection to one of the great teams of that era, and being one of the foremost commentators in swedish television you'll hear his pro-liverpool tirades still. And I'm certain it's influenced other media associates as well.
Naturally you'd choose the very opposite of a media-darling if given the choice.

Since that early (in my supporting career) FA Cup winner with Limpar, Rideout and in-house favorite Big Nev there's not been much else to celebrate. There is a sequence in that game where Southall plucks a deep longball one-handed as it looks to be going over him that me and my dad still talk about to this day though.
It would take until the fated day in march when David Moyes was appointed manager (well, actually one or two years into his reign) before you started to feel a bit confident in the team again.
David Moyes has been a steady builder of consistent performers, with work ethic and a strong team emphasis in his squads, and from day one we were always going to be dubbed underdogs were it then simply steering clear of relegation or as it seems now; finishing in a Europa placing. With a small squad, and neighbours enjoying considerable infatuation from worldwide press and arm-chair support (I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing since they've been reaping the benefits for decades now) we were always going to be underdogs.

But in more recent times, with David Moyes capable of building genuinely decent footballing sides on a shoe-string budget, we've taken a huge step out from under the red shadow of the Anfield gang, and as has been the case in the two past years we've frog-leaped them both in performances as well as in the league.

The thing we've been struggling the most with in the years following our shock-grab of 4th in the -04 season has always seemed to be the 'inferior' sides where we struggle to either motivate the team enought to see them off, or heavily struggling with breaking them down as we've lacked the final touch to unlock tightly wound defenses.
This, too, seems to have changed in the most present incarnation of St Domingo's though. We now have the European leader in creating chances as our left back, we have a class poacher in our main striker and several trickier players who have also shown a capability of putting in a decent shift.

Where once we struggled to create the chances and to unlock the tight defenses of teams coming to Goodison to 'park the bus' we now create a wealth of chances and have directed a flurry of shots towards the opposition goal, so much so that we've been leading the European charts as the team in the european major leagues to have the most shots toward opposition goals in recent weeks, with the chasing pack being headed by old adversaries Bayern Munich. But still we struggle to finish off teams like Fulham, Reading and Norwich because of our inability to convert chances. For those who haven't been watching most of the games this season we've been playing some fantastic football, though lately we've tended to dip performance-wise toward the end of games (sometimes starting as soon as after the half-time whistle).

I find it very hard to believe that the players who've dominated the first halfs with very positive performances could be so fatigued or run down that they'd give up advantages as easily as they have.
I actually believe that with our inability to finish opponents off a dread has crept in, whether consciously or sub-consciously, and with it a self-doubt that hampers the performances of many of the players. The longer a run of negative results continue, with the points we're losing, the more the players will doubt their ability to finish opposition teams off and put ourselves in a comfortable lead before the now seemingly resurgence of any team we play. Norwich had a good run when they came to Goodison but that game was more open, Reading were due a win but in no way showed themselves capable of taking the game to us in the first half. But with our inability to score and see games out opposition teams will look at our string of bad results and fancy a point or fight-back there for the taking. You can't give any team in the League that possibility because every single team has at least one or two players willing to fully grasp that last straw of hope. And we've continually conceded it.

My conclusion is that while we were the ones bringing the heart and graft for many years, we have in a slow transition now become the ones responsible for dominating games against weaker opposition. We cannot rightly call ourselves underdogs when playing anyone outside the top 3 or 4 and even then we'll always fancy our chances for an upset. We need to re-affirm our self-belief in the possibility to get results, and somehow find that winning mentality that lets us be comfortable in a lead, or as was the case with our come-back results the belief in our ability to get back in the game if we go one down.
We've certainly overtaken the reds both in performances and results, as our League position shows, but they are still far beyond us in their self-belief which is what might just see them clear this lower table crisis. While their squad certainly isn't inspiring any confidence in their claiming a top 8 position their history and belief, DELUSION if you will, just might get them there.
In -04 we had a different set-up and the ability wasn't there to dominate games as we have recently but instead we grafted and worked like no other team to get results from any game. Similar to what West Brom are doing this year, even if they have a much stronger frontline then we had back then.
My concern though is that this squad, and this club, needs to redefine itself if we are to genuinely push on.
 

Dominating and not converting chances I dont see as a grave problem, to be honest. The real danger right now is that we have a conservative manager who, when things get a bit rough, draws all the wrong conclusions and wrecks the balance of the team that's creating those chances...which he's started to do already.
 
Actually, what I meant was that if he cannot continue to evolve the team as he has so far we run a risk of regressing towards being a mid-table (at best) team again. He's worked wonders with the squads he's had, much I would say due to being able to install an against the ropes underdog never say die (etc etc) attitude.
Now is the time to really step it up. We cannot continue labelling ourselves as underdogs and dark horses, we have a team that in its own right has proven to challenge for european places.
I have no idea what his half-time talks are like, but it's clear to all the we are looking increasingly insecure even when in total control of the games due to our creating numerous chances. Teams like Norwich shouldn't be coming here 0-1 and then saying 'look, the points are there for the taking, get at them.'

We lack the confidence to see games out, even if we're only 1-0 out and creating 20+ chances per game there should be a belief in our ability to control the game but I think our mentality is what's hampering this ability. It's what any dominant side should be doing but because of our history as an underdog we fail to capitalise on the games where we've looked completely certain of 3 points.

I thought for the first time when we played Sunderland that Moyes did a pro-active substition, and it came off the back of the Distin for Jelavic in the 88th of the Fulham game where we conceded a late equaliser due to a catastrophic back 5 failing to deal with a pretty standard cross.
Vellios for Neville to get a more straight 4-4-2 and then once we had grabbed the winner (albeit a bit luckily) he took off Jela for Hitzelsperger to shore out the center of the pitch.
But in retrospect it looks more like a lucky fluke in that he made perfect sense in his substitutions. Sunderland should have been the start of a more calm and in control Everton who believed in their ability to eventually get the result. Instead we got the very opposite reaction both against Reading and Norwich where we look in control and get a first goal only to concede every ounce of possession, and frankly inspite of their recent decent form none of those teams should be picking points off this squad.

I just think this stretches further than just bottling down to Moyes' match-tactics, which have always been a bit dodgy.
 
They need eileen drewery, Hoddle was right all along.

I see what what you're saying and it's been said many a time we don't have the we are winners attitude and DM doesn't seem to be able to instill it in his players ever. They go 1-0 up and fall apart effectively sh1t themselves and you just know the equaliser is coming.
 

I think some of it is also in the way we as fans view the club. I mean how many of those who were here for the 80's titles feel that we are winning side who should be competing for titles? It's a great hurdle to get this team into the Europa League but when compared to most of the sides challenging there we should be able to compete?

There should be a miracle-working sports psychologist out there to filter and translate Moyes' dour genius into a winning mentality. Because this is the best Everton squad I've seen since I was hooked, even with some of the dodgy defending (from the team as a whole) of late.
 
Something I've thought for a long time is that we struggle when the emphasis is on us to win. Sure, we win some of those games as we bloody ought to do but not as many as we should. Results against Wigan, QPR, Reading and Norwich - frankly 4 of the worst sides in the league - illustrate this. I actually think we'll do OK against Arsenal and Spurs at home (Man City away is hard to see us getting anything).

Maybe we're not quite as good as we thought we are. 1 win in 7 against opposition we, by and large, should really be beating. Seems we've got a lot of work to go before being considered serious top 4 challengers. Not that this season has been poor, far from it. But once more we're throwing away a hatful of points in games we should be winning.
 
If the team do well this season we will struggle next year as we dont have the squad to compete on more fronts as evidenced by coc capitualation and poor performances against the lesser sides. I believe this is down to moyes not rotating the squad enough. Its just my opinion but a few matches last year and before when somebody came in as a replacement to the team the continuity stayed and there wasnt much disruption to how the team played ( i think we had a lot of injuries ) but more people were getting a game. At the moment and from last year we have seen poor performances from players (all are guilty minus baines) and still they are being picked or not being subbed. Moyes must not believe in his other options but the way to do this is to at least play 1 during a game and let him develop around the more experienced players, the excuse of making mistakes and costing us points or games doesnt hold water with the amount of individual mistakes being made every match that (every f**king time ) results in a goal, cant believe how unlucky we have been in that respect, 1 mistake and goal compared to us having 20 odd chances and scoring one or two of them. I dont want to have one good season and then a poor one next time I want a strong squad all playing well that can compete. After 20 minutes of the norwich match we could see piennar wasnt playing aswell even before the injury he has been like that a few matches, I rate fellaine but he doesnt bother in some matches i.e west brom, and these are instances when moyes should change make a sub be more ruthless to the so called favourites, they can win you a match but also cost you a match by below par performance. This is where the squad rotation comes in because I can see from oviedo he is hungry to play and so is duffy, barkley,junior all great players that would encourage the team to play better by their hunger when on the pitch. Some squad players might not be good enough and get found out then we can ship them on but they need a chance to show at least. So I can accept loses this season knowing the team is building up to a proper full squad strength that can play on multiple fronts next season, I am not giving up on this season I still the believe the squad is good to get up high but I dont want to spend money we dont have or buy players and fail and have them on the books, why buy players if he has his favourites and doesnt play anybody else, disheartening for the other players on the sidelines. Maybe Im wrong but all I want is the best for everton love the style they are playing but it needs to be consistent and moyes needs to be ruthless against his own players, against other teams and on a side note against the F**king referees, I havent mentioned the referees as they have always been bad against us we need to win inspite of them and have shown we can before and will again. The only 2 players I wouldnt criticize this season so far are mirallas and baines everybody else has been below standard at different times, I know we are high and doing well but it should be even better and that is the standard we should be aiming for. NSNO
 
I think some of it is also in the way we as fans view the club. I mean how many of those who were here for the 80's titles feel that we are winning side who should be competing for titles? It's a great hurdle to get this team into the Europa League but when compared to most of the sides challenging there we should be able to compete?

There should be a miracle-working sports psychologist out there to filter and translate Moyes' dour genius into a winning mentality. Because this is the best Everton squad I've seen since I was hooked, even with some of the dodgy defending (from the team as a whole) of late.

Never mind the glorious '85 & '87 titles, I have been lucky enough to be present at the '63 and '70 titles. To answer your question, no I don't think we are a winning side and the poster who said we lack a winning mentality is absolutely right. Modern day (ie Moyes era Derby matches are a perfect example of who REALLY wants to win).

Personally, despite the stability Moyes has brought to the club, so far as the team on the pitch is concerned, it's still a constant two steps forward and two steps back in my opinion. The evidence is in the fact that in 10 whole years the best Moyes has been able to Manage is two semi-finals and one final, in all of which we were found seriously lacking.
 
Well, it was in my beginning rant, the seemingly total lack of a winning mentality. I'm more curious if it's possible for the current squad to turn it around with the current manager, and much of the fanbase, always trying to make us out as the underdog and downplaying their own, and the team's, expectations?

I'm not expecting us to challenge for the title this or next year, probably not in the coming 3-4 years, but wouldn't you say it's reasonable to say that with the current squad and the development made that we have a chance to aim for a top 4 spot?
Even taking into consideration a much tighter game schedule and a need for a larger squad in the year following such a feat, I'd expect you to deal with it the way Dortmund way. It puts you on the map, and with the ****e clearly going through a decline there's space to claim. Looking at Dortmund they treated their first Champions League run-out as a learning curve where you air a mix of first team and squad players and still focus on the league play.

I really don't see how downplaying, or doubting, the current squad's ability helps us kick on to the next level. Which is what I would expect most fans would want for their team.
 

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