The Eco-Friendly Thread

[SteveSC]

I think its a bit of a cop out to be saying that its up to the scientific and engineering community to be solving the world's problems like that.

we have technology and science to thank for helping to raise living standards to the point where we can afford to be having these first world problem discussions in the first place.

Ecologicial sustainability doesn't start with building statues of Greta Thunberg, and it doesn't come about from dictate from a higher power telling us that we have to cut our emisisons by 2030. It starts by doing your own little bit at home, by learning to bemore content with what you already have and living within your own means. Anyone and everyone can do thisg - make your day about going to the park, enjoying some fresh air, going for a run and spending quality time with your family and friends - all these things are free and don't screw up the planet.

I think you misread my point. His claim was, we should all give up traveling and using the methods we use. Move closer etc...

To replace current mode of transport and come up with ideas how we can get around without them like he suggested.

Clearly that's not on anyone needing to get from point A to point B and feel guilty about it.

 

[evilwebby]

And here's the crux of the problem.. while you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't chivalrously agree that we need to better look after our planet, its mob nature to also then demand that problems and associated costs of doing so to fall on someone else rather than themselves.. because it's never they who are the problem.

Climate change: Revealed - how many Britons are unwilling to change their habits to tackle the crisis

Only 50% of respondents in the YouGov poll for Sky News supported a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030.

news.sky.com

That's why you just can't have a serious discussion about it. Blame your neighbours because they have 2 cars. Blame the Americans - have you seen their carbon footprint? Blame the scientists - how dare they have not already solved the clean energy problem? Build all the windfarms you want - as long as it NOT IN MY BACK YARD.

 

[davids]

Neighbor of mine works with the company in charge of out sanitation and he oversees the dump and recycling facility.

He say most of the recycling plastics and cardboard that say they can be recycled aren't because they can't be.

I was surprised when I was watching John Oliver and he did a piece on the very thing we discussed. Plastics companies have been lying to us and stained cardboard or cardboard made a certain way also cannot be recycled

California recently passed a initiative to tell people to put food scraps and organic materials in with their green waste. Think about that. They are only starting it now. Other countries have been doing that for years. So far no one other than maybe four houses have started doing it.

The only realist way to recycle plastics is to use them as construction materials. More Earthships.

 

[JammyP]

https://president.ie/en/media-library/speeches/climate-action-and-the-role-of-engineers
Apparently the first speech by a western head of state looking at a post-growth, echo-social economy. Well worth a read. Michael Higgins, October 2020. Fine man.

 

[JammyP]

Should this be in current affairs?