The Crusades

[Allezfan]

From the modern point of view no, but back then it was true. There is nothing in the Jewish experience under Islam that is comparable to what went on in Europe during 1095-6, for instance.

Depends on the kingdom, I guess. Charlemagne was famously brutal in massacring non catholics in his realm and the early caliphates I think actually discouraged conversion because they had a muslim welfare state which was funded by taxing non muslims so it was in their interests to employ lots of christians and jews in order to fund their muslim subjects who weren't taxed and recieved benefits. At around 900 AD, there was no doubt the muslim empires were more tolerant.

But by the time of the crusades and the combination of the massacres of jews in granada and the outlawing of christian imagery and forced conversions in syria, there wasn't a huge amount to choose between being a non catholic in a catholic country or a non muslim in a muslim one. Neither were desirable.

 

[blaggerblue]

There is some doubt that the Children's Crusade ever existed.

Well they certainly never got there. They were enslaved by various unscrupulous people on the way.Its said that The Pied Piper was influenced by it.

 

[peteblue]

There is some doubt that the Children's Crusade ever existed.

Have you ever tried parking anywhere near Goodison Park.......

 

[peteblue]

Look the only thing we know for certain is that just like in WW1 and WW2 the Americans were late joining in, quite a bit late in this instance............

 

[EFCNIK]

At the end of the day, when we take it to what's happening now, it's inly Muslims who are killing non Muslims for being non Muslim en masse. Yes of course you get a little the other way round in parts of Africa, but on the whole, around the world, that's the way it is.

Can't be something inherently wrong with the Quran though.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

At the end of the day, when we take it to what's happening now, it's inly Muslims who are killing non Muslims for being non Muslim en masse. Yes of course you get a little the other way round in parts of Africa, but on the whole, around the world, that's the way it is.

Can't be something inherently wrong with the Quran though.

Bosnia forgotten quickly?

 

[EFCNIK]

Bosnia forgotten quickly?

Terrible as it was, it doesn't even come close to what is still happening and what will continue to happen so long as millions of people follow the commands to the letter of a pedophile war criminal.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Terrible as it was, it doesn't even come close to what is still happening and what will continue to happen so long as millions of people follow the commands to the letter of a pedophile war criminal.

*rolls eyes and leaves thread

 

[Allezfan]

Honestly, one of the most intolerant and evil governments on the planet is Buddhist, the muslim and christian minorities in myanmar have been getting killed for years, though hopefully things on that front will improve since the military stood down.

 

[EFCNIK]

*rolls eyes and leaves thread

Why mate?

Was what I said not true? Or maybe because no ones allowed to criticise it, we have to overlook the fact that the religion is based in the violent commands of a man who shagged a 9 year old.

 

[riddick]

Honestly, one of the most intolerant and evil governments on the planet is Buddhist, the muslim and christian minorities in myanmar have been getting killed for years, though hopefully things on that front will improve since the military stood down.

which is a bit funny because it flies directly in the face of what Buddhism is essentially about.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Why mate?

Was what I said not true? Or maybe because no ones allowed to criticise it, we have to overlook the fact that the religion is based in the violent commands of a man who shagged a 9 year old.

No, cause its goddamn boring reading you going on about it.

This is an interesting historical thread so take your islam obsession and koff will ya.

Islam is bollocks mate, see i just criticised it, now can you drop it and let others get back to the interesting history this thread is about.