The big society just got smaller

[Bruce Wayne]

Migrants from outside the European Economic Area will no longer be allowed to work in the UK as chefs in takeaway restaurants, the government has said.
…A similar ban will apply to workers such as hairdressers, beauty salon managers and estate agents from April.
The number of skilled migrants not from the European Economic Area is being capped annually at 21,700.
…The government wants to cut net migration from about 200,000 a year to tens of thousands by 2015.


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12733899


Absolute madness :blink:

 

[Tubey]

Good.

Seriously. Won't make much difference to the problems we have here as the vast, vast majority of the influx is EU-based, but something needs doing and it's a start.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes, at a time when we need all the skilled scientists and engineers, lets stop them coming here *facepalm*

After all, it's not like we're not churning out **** loads of them ourselves or that our universities are closing their labs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-over-immigration-cap-and-support-issues.html

One of the very few modern world leaders and they're contemplating moving abroad just to get access to the talent they need. Great. Just what the economy needs, a lack of skilled people.

You can see it now, Kenwright pulls one out of the bag and signs Messi in the summer, but he's non-EC migrant number 21,701 so is turned away at the border. Absolute insanity.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

The price of brass will plummet.

 

[linglong]

Pretty sure this or something very similar was in the tory manifesto so it's not really surprising tbh,barking but not unexpected

 

[onceabluealwaysablue]

Yes, at a time when we need all the skilled scientists and engineers, lets stop them coming here *facepalm*

After all, it's not like we're not churning out **** loads of them ourselves or that our universities are closing their labs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-over-immigration-cap-and-support-issues.html

One of the very few modern world leaders and they're contemplating moving abroad just to get access to the talent they need. Great. Just what the economy needs, a lack of skilled people.

You can see it now, Kenwright pulls one out of the bag and signs Messi in the summer, but he's non-EC migrant number 21,701 so is turned away at the border. Absolute insanity.

We should have an immigration policy like australia if you are of no benefit to the country you aint coming in

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We should have an immigration policy like australia if you are of no benefit to the country you aint coming in

That makes more sense. To be honest as long as someone has a reason for being here, ie has a job to come to or is studying, then they should be allowed to come. It's the bludgers we don't want. We have enough of those amongst the native population without importing lots.

 

[onceabluealwaysablue]

That makes more sense. To be honest as long as someone has a reason for being here, ie has a job to come to or is studying, then they should be allowed to come. It's the bludgers we don't want. We have enough of those amongst the native population without importing lots.

Exactly Australia are very strict on immigration and we should definitely try to put something like that in place but no thanks to the human rights bill you cant even cough without it being against someone or things rights

 

[Ezekiel]

We should have an immigration policy like australia if you are of no benefit to the country you aint coming in

i agree, have a side that allows genuine asylum too, but not the current system.

 

[zed]

the tories are in power so the labour market doesnt need to be flooded with immigrants to keep wages down, it will be flooded by public sector workers put on the dole because we need `cuts to services` and massive ones - right now, dead quick- sorta knee-jerk over-the-top cuts to immediately pay off a bit of the national debt which is manageable anyway. ho-hum

 

[Bruce Wayne]

the tories are in power so the labour market doesnt need to be flooded with immigrants to keep wages down, it will be flooded by public sector workers put on the dole because we need `cuts to services` and massive ones - right now, dead quick- sorta knee-jerk over-the-top cuts to immediately pay off a bit of the national debt which is manageable anyway. ho-hum

Not the kind of skills the country needs though I suspect. Not many scientists, engineers, programmers etc. hired by the public sector.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

Not the kind of skills the country needs though I suspect. Not many scientists, engineers, programmers etc. hired by the public sector.

We'll have some naval engineers without any ships to work with, maybe some of the Royal Engineer Corps as well with the SDR. However I agree, blocking qualified people, who are trained in areas where we are lacking skills in the country, from entering the UK is a very silly idea. We could also do with expanding our Industrial base, similar to Germany.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes, the Mittlestand in Germany is a tremendous source of strength for them. Whether that horse has bolted of course I don't know, but we need to have something like that.

 

[zed]

Not the kind of skills the country needs though I suspect. Not many scientists, engineers, programmers etc. hired by the public sector.

your thread starter was about take-away chefs, hairdressers and so on- erm does the UK need 5million estate agents............also that Telegraph article is a bit rich- moaning about `parking spaces and the tax rate if you earn £150k+- my heart bleeds for them, they are free to work somewhere else - arent they? so what if our industries fail, its happened before so bring it on. private companies want to wring the tax-payer dry for sweeteners then do one if and when they see fit - same with the banks.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

your thread starter was about take-away chefs, hairdressers and so on- erm does the UK need 5million estate agents............also that Telegraph article is a bit rich- moaning about `parking spaces and the tax rate if you earn £150k+- my heart bleeds for them, they are free to work somewhere else - arent they? so what if our industries fail, its happened before so bring it on. private companies want to wring the tax-payer dry for sweeteners then do one if and when they see fit - same with the banks.

They don't really, they just want to be able to hire who they want. You'd want Everton to be able to sign the best players and not have to satisfy some Whitehall mandarin. Compare the quality of PL teams now to when there was a 3 foreigner rule.

As for 'who cares if our industries fail'. Me. I care. We don't have many globally competitive industries as it is. We desperately need market leaders who are thriving internationally and cannot stick our head in the sand and simply expect it to happen by magic. It's not a case of giving out sweeteners, more getting out of their way and not hamstringing them with red tape.