Sunderland bid 13mill for Wickham
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Depends what clubs are looking for though doesn't it. From the little I've seen of Wickham, he looks to have the potential to be a game changer, which is what many thought Rodwell would be 12 to 18 months ago. Rodwell does not seem to have progressed in that time although he has had a couple of injuries. I would personally bite at any deal approaching £20 million for Rodwell if it was mainly given to Moyes.
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Wickham is first name on the team sheet at Ipswich, and at 18 (only just turning 18 too) and with roughly a 1 in 4 record for a team like Ipswich that are third rate in the Championship, that is impressive. He's very much an old school centre half. He's big and strong, but with a burst of speed and he's a devastating finisher. I've heard the comparison of 'a young Shearer' and its certainly an interesting one. His potential is still pretty raw at the moment so he'll need guidance and games to realise that potential, i think he'd do very well at Sunderland. He's really impressed me every time he's played. Ipswich have accepted the offer by the way.
Without turning this into yet another Rodwell thread though, at 20 he hasn't made the same sort of impact that Jones, Henderson, Sturridge and Welbeck have. Even the likes of Cleverley and Albrighton made more appearances last season. Its not clear what his best position is, he's had trouble with injuries and other than a 5 minute cameo against United when he scored, 12 months ago, there's not really been many other performances of note. He's got the build of a good player, and he's got the right attributes but his talent is nowhere near as refined as others his age. Perhaps he's a late bloomer, who knows but i don't think there will be significant interest in Rodwell till he first establishes himself in our team.
Without turning this into yet another Rodwell thread though, at 20 he hasn't made the same sort of impact that Jones, Henderson, Sturridge and Welbeck have. Even the likes of Cleverley and Albrighton made more appearances last season. Its not clear what his best position is, he's had trouble with injuries and other than a 5 minute cameo against United when he scored, 12 months ago, there's not really been many other performances of note. He's got the build of a good player, and he's got the right attributes but his talent is nowhere near as refined as others his age. Perhaps he's a late bloomer, who knows but i don't think there will be significant interest in Rodwell till he first establishes himself in our team.
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Sickens me, the average Everton fans logic concerning Rodwell is a complete joke.
He didnt really have the best of Seasons last year, but same could be said for a LOT of our players, that doesnt mean hes not the same player.
The fact that EVERY top Club in the country is linked to him every week is a sign of how highly rated he is, but I suspect most of you would be glad to see him leave for around £10m as long as we got some utter crap in like Charles NgCrapzia.
Kenwrongs puppets the lot of ya.
He didnt really have the best of Seasons last year, but same could be said for a LOT of our players, that doesnt mean hes not the same player.
The fact that EVERY top Club in the country is linked to him every week is a sign of how highly rated he is, but I suspect most of you would be glad to see him leave for around £10m as long as we got some utter crap in like Charles NgCrapzia.
Kenwrongs puppets the lot of ya.
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Yeah and i suppose to you Rodwell's the best thing since sliced bread, he's the next Beckenbauer, and yet my logic is flawed. Whoopididoo every top club in the country is linked to him, every top club in the country was once linked to Jeffers and Pennant, what have they done since ?. Your forgetting that papers need to be filled every single day, its easy to write "Chelsea eye Rodwell move". It frustrates me that this 'wonderkid' tag is bandied around so easily. Vaughan became the youngest scorer in the Premier League and he was a wonderkid being eyed by all and sundry.
I'm not saying Rodwell is a bad player, i'm not even saying he's average. I'm saying he's got a lot of potential, but he's been surpassed in development by similar players his age, and indeed quite a few players younger than him. He's never established himself as a starter here, and until he does he'll never command the same sort of fee's that Jones and Henderson did. We can demand whatever we like for him, but no club will be interested in paying £15-20m+ for someone who can't get into our midfield. I'm fairly certain he'll be here at least another year because there was no significant interest at the fee we'd demand.
1 in 4 and is worth 13m?
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Or maybe we have better players then the likes of Blackburn and Sunderland, so a player like Rodwell has to wait and bide his time and not get the games he needs to advance as much as he should.
If Rodwell was at ANY of the Clubs below us he would be starting every week and showing his "potential", but sadly for him, at the moment, he has better advanced players ahead of him.
That doesnt mean hes gash, it just means he has to wait.
Mark my words, Jack Rodwell, best player in the World 2015. Quote me, im never wrong.
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So because Rodwell isn't playing week in week out compared to other premier league players of his age, he should be around the same price as a championship striker who scores 1 in 4 and is untested in the premier league?
Don't see the logic in that but fair dos
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No, i'm saying a 17 year old that is first name on the team sheet and scoring fairly regularly in a mediocre side is worth £9m rising to £13m, he's just turned 18 and he's got lots of potential, if he were doing it for a lower league Premier League side, he'd be worth close to double that. I'm saying Rodwell is a bench player currently, at this level at 20 years old there are more advanced players around his age, so its not like he's the stand out talent in the country. Until he cements his first team place he'll never be worth as much as Jones and Henderson.
£15m is the price we'd probably demand now, but i don't think buying teams would be interested at that price, because he's not shown enough.
£15m is the price we'd probably demand now, but i don't think buying teams would be interested at that price, because he's not shown enough.
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Wickhams price is not down to his ability, the 13mill is based more on other teams interested like liverpool and he's gone to the highest bidder. It's the same with Chamberline at Southampton, upwards of 10million because united and arsenal are interested. Ability wise they're about 5mill tops because both are massively unproven in the premiership. Fees are increased due to nationality, age, contract, willingness to sell and parties interested.
Rodwell, who won't leave this season because of his injury hit one last season, has prem experience and bigger clubs interested. No matter that he doesn't play regularly, hell still command a similar fee to Henderson and Jones due to the aspects not related to his ability
Im fairly sure people who cant even write a sentence without spelling mistakes shouldnt be taken seriously.
And Damon was exposed as a fraud a long time ago, anyway, he told me that if Kenwrong didnt sell this Summer he would stop posting, which months does Summer fall into again?
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