Stubbs given a 2 match touchline ban and a £500 fine

[steken1]

why? they would have the best manager in the premiership bar none

Course they would mate. I'm sure Moyesy would have a ball too, shipping out anyone with an ego and playing Phil Jones on the right of midfield.

 

[Joao Moutinho]

Moyes wouldn't suit United:

- moyes plays 4-4-1-1, man united don't and they would be weaker for it
- moyes hates egos, man united have ten a penny
- moyes isn't much of a risk taker, the fans wont appreciate that
- moyes likes to play direct football, man united don't

 

[BoysInBlue]

dont know think maybe weir would be a good manager for 21s

Maybe he would be, it's the Stubbs to first team part I'd be worried about.

I rate Moyes very highly, but he'd struggle at United because:

- He's not Sir Alex Ferguson;
- Whoever succeeds Ferguson will be on to a hiding to nothing unless they have immense charisma and a big track record of winning stuff (Mourinho?)
- It's not the 1980s/1990s anymore, where a 'big club' appoints an unproven-at-winning-stuff manager and hopes for the best.

Ferguson can handpick him all he wants. Ferguson also handpicked Juan Sebastian Veron once too.

 

[Joao Moutinho]

Also, for the record, Phil Neville would be the best option to manage the u21's next season

 

[toffeechris]

Also, for the record, Phil Neville would be the best option to manage the u21's next season

in time yes but has another season or two left yet cudnt do both!!

 

[BoysInBlue]

Also, for the record, Phil Neville would be the best option to manage the u21's next season

To be honest, I'd take anyone but Stubbs. A change clearly needs to be made.

 

[Joao Moutinho]

in time yes but has another season or two left yet cudnt do both!!

Really? I think the West Brom game showed that he doesn't

To be honest, I'd take anyone but Stubbs. A change clearly needs to be made.

I think Neville would be the best option for the job, he knows the squad, everyone seems to like him around the club, he has some coaching experience, he has the qualifications, he's great at pointing

 

[toffeechris]

Really? I think the West Brom game showed that he doesn't



I think Neville would be the best option for the job, he knows the squad, everyone seems to like him around the club, he has some coaching experience, he has the qualifications, he's great at pointing

jesus one average game in which all everton players were poor bar one or two united game neville was excellent and also played well at villa wudnt write him off yet!!

 

[steken1]

If Neville goes into coaching I expect him to be a bit bolder than Moyes. On the odd occasion he talks football, instead of issuing rallying cries, he sounds a very different character to Moyes.

For me only Mourinho could follow Ferguson, anybody else will be on a hiding to nothing.

 

[Joao Moutinho]

jesus one average game in which all everton players were poor bar one or two united game neville was excellent and also played well at villa wudnt write him off yet!!

Every game I see him he's average, at Villa he was very stationary, he didn't even play that well against United, Gibson did most of the hard work.

 

[toffeechris]

he was excellent him and gibson against united at villa he had little to do but what he had to he done well! you prob have never rated him like alot on here and when we dont play well he,s a scapegoat!

 

[Joao Moutinho]

he was excellent him and gibson against united at villa he had little to do but what he had to he done well! you prob have never rated him like alot on here and when we dont play well he,s a scapegoat!

I have never really rated him since that tackle vs romania in 2000 but he's done a job for us, just I feel that is now too old and it just frustrates me. Giving him a playing/managing role in the u21's would be a great gig for him.

and he's not a scapegoat, I can remember him having good games when others haven't, but it was his inability in the middle of the park that was one of the reasons that cost us 3 points against west brom

 

[davek]

Alan Irvine will take over from Stubbs if required.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Alan Irvine will take over from Stubbs if required.

He's the Academy manager who has written the entire syllabus for how the club trains youngsters at the club.

If anything, he currently has a far more important role than Stubbs has, so I can't see him being reserve team manager.

 

[davek]

He's the Academy manager who has written the entire syllabus for how the club trains youngsters at the club.

If anything, he currently has a far more important role than Stubbs has, so I can't see him being reserve team manager.

Which makes him perfectly placed to step in and do the job. He was assistant manager; if Stubbs is replaced he's the obvious candidate.

I honestly dont understand what you have against Stubbs in his capacity as U21 coach. Seems to me he's dealing with structural issues of a very small squad that depletes what resources he'll have to hand week in, week out.