Speed Restricted Cars

[bizzaro]

Which is why the humungous tube was banned in the first place. God knows why he's been allowed back on.

Can't take the pace of debate can we Brennan.

You're looking abit tired there.

 

[blue61]

Ahhhhh, that's just as bad as a 70 speed limit. This is just gonna go on and on.

Not really. Higher speeds on some roads would be perfectly safe if there was clear road ahead and there wasn't some tit tailgating you.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Damon could put a glass eye to sleep with his wiki links and his total misconstruing of legislation.

A classic example of the phrase, a little knowledge is dangerous

 

[COYBL25]

Not really. Higher speeds on some roads would be perfectly safe if there was clear road ahead and there wasn't some tit tailgating you.

Unfortunately to overtake properly from behind you need to get quite close to the car in front, as the shorter the distance between the the car in front and you the easier it is to overtake. Read the section in the advanced drivers manual on overtaking .That's not the same as tailgating although most drivers would think that's what was going on.
I,m going now as this is just going round and and found in circles !

 

[bizzaro]

Damon could put a glass eye to sleep with his wiki links and his total misconstruing of legislation.

A classic example of the phrase, a little knowledge is dangerous

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_speed_adaptation

 

[Tree13]

Unfortunately to overtake properly from behind you need to get quite close to the car in front, as the shorter the distance between the the car in front and you the easier it is to overtake. Read the section in the advanced drivers manual on overtaking .That's not the same as tailgating although most drivers would think that's what was going on.
I,m going now as this is just going round and and found in circles !

Spot on.

People who complain about being tailgated baffle me. They have plenty of options to deal with scenario - speed up, or move over and let the tailgater past, to name two - but they never take these opportunities. Instead they sit in the middle lane doing 56, or the outside lane white-knuckling it at 65, causing huge tailbacks because they are massively inconsiderate and woefully unskilled.

Treat tailgaters like you would an ambulance or a fire engine - let them through.

 

[Milk]

Tut tut tut tut tut.

Its a typical anti-EU publication by the Tory-graph / UKIP idiots.

Not a genuine story and not ever likely to get passed by the European Parliament. Or past the courts.


@Milk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...lans-to-fit-all-cars-with-speed-limiters.html

Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.

A Government source told the Mail on Sunday Mr McLoughlin had instructed officials to block the move because they ‘violated’ motorists’ freedom. They said: “This has Big Brother written all over it and is exactly the sort of thing that gets people's backs up about Brussels.

...

A spokesman for the European Commission said: “There is a currently consultation focusing on speed-limiting technology already fitted to HGVs and buses.

“Taking account of the results, the Commission will publish in the autumn a document by its technical experts which will no doubt refer to ISA among many other things.”

It was, as my OP stated, a Sunday Times item in their "Driving" section and not the Telegraph.

In truth, I would agree that it wont happen for a number of reasons that have already been stated but the fact of the matter is, pressure groups are forever pushing for ever greater restrictions on our activities.
It pays to raise awareness

 

[bizzaro]

It was, as my OP stated, a Sunday Times item in their "Driving" section and not the Telegraph.

In truth, I would agree that it wont happen for a number of reasons that have already been stated but the fact of the matter is, pressure groups are forever pushing for ever greater restrictions on our activities.
It pays to raise awareness

It would help if people knew a little more about EU law and the processes involved in getting safety regulations passed.

As I mentioned safety regulations if they are excessive; may not necessarily trump trade laws

They're open to legal challenge also if they're not proportionate.

Ie cause more cost and interfere in people's lives without generating significant results.

Speed limiters on large vehicles like HGVs is understandable. If they have crashes they usually cause fatalities due to their size/weight

Motor vehicles (cars) however are consumer items. Not commercial.

So the law will treat them differently because people also have consumer rights.

The law would say they can achieve the same results by just increasing driving aids like audible alarms and sensors without interfering directly in people's driving

 

[The Cowboy]

It would help if people knew a little more about EU law and the processes involved in getting safety regulations passed.

As I mentioned safety regulations if they are excessive; may not necessarily trump trade laws

They're open to legal challenge also if they're not proportionate.

Ie cause more cost and interfere in people's lives without generating significant results.

Speed limiters on large vehicles like HGVs is understandable. If they have crashes they usually cause fatalities due to their size/weight

Motor vehicles (cars) however are consumer items. Not commercial.

So the law will treat them differently because people also have consumer rights.

The law would say they can achieve the same results by just increasing driving aids like audible alarms and sensors without interfering directly in people's driving

Just because something won't happen because of EU law and suchlike doesn't mean it's not a topic worth of discussion. This board is littered with hypothetical discussions, no need to shoot them down by saying they won't actually happen.

 

[Milk]

It would help if people knew a little more about EU law and the processes involved in getting safety regulations passed.

As I mentioned safety regulations if they are excessive; may not necessarily trump trade laws

They're open to legal challenge also if they're not proportionate.

Ie cause more cost and interfere in people's lives without generating significant results.

Speed limiters on large vehicles like HGVs is understandable. If they have crashes they usually cause fatalities due to their size/weight

Motor vehicles (cars) however are consumer items. Not commercial.

So the law will treat them differently because people also have consumer rights.

The law would say they can achieve the same results by just increasing driving aids like audible alarms and sensors without interfering directly in people's driving

Unfortunately I get wrapped up in a lot of EU law (not often safety law I admit) due to the nature of my business and I know from bitter experience that the UK have a very nasty habit of taking EU law and gold plating it to the advantage of those policing it and to the great disadvantage of those who have to try and work within it.
As a consequence, I am very wary of anything muted