Should Loan deals be banned?
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Joao Moutinho
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What benefits would there be of banning them?
I can't see how, Cavey. Please elaborate.
Jacko93
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I think that it would improve the quality of teams in the lower leagues, would stop teams such as Chelsea and city buying up players and putting them in storage, with the option of sending them out on loan if they become stale. Players would be more likely to choose a team cause they think they will play, rather think they will get paid more.
If higher quality players are playing in the lower leagues, they will benefit the youth at those teams and improve over the years the english talent.
Is it fair that, for eg only, Downing may be going on loan to M'borough, with Liverpool paying 90% of his wages? Is it fair on any of the other clubs down there that that may improve them over what is already there?
Chelsea have bought numerous players, De Bruyne being one, with no intention of them playing first team football immediately. They only buy them because they can, because it will be a little bit cheaper at that point. The selling club eventually loses out, as does, in many cases, the player.
People make the assumption that PL teams have all the best coaches, and that kids would be better served ebing coached by them, but I'm not so sure it's the truth.
IMO.
If higher quality players are playing in the lower leagues, they will benefit the youth at those teams and improve over the years the english talent.
Is it fair that, for eg only, Downing may be going on loan to M'borough, with Liverpool paying 90% of his wages? Is it fair on any of the other clubs down there that that may improve them over what is already there?
Chelsea have bought numerous players, De Bruyne being one, with no intention of them playing first team football immediately. They only buy them because they can, because it will be a little bit cheaper at that point. The selling club eventually loses out, as does, in many cases, the player.
People make the assumption that PL teams have all the best coaches, and that kids would be better served ebing coached by them, but I'm not so sure it's the truth.
IMO.
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Joao Moutinho
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That's just the way football works now. Rich teams buy players with lots of potential, send them on loan to get that first team experience and then bring them back when they are ready. Nothing wrong with that. We did the same with Ross, are you saying that he shouldn't be allowed to go on loan when he is not near our first team right now and needs the games? In terms of youth development, the top leagues do have the best coaches, young players don't just go there for the money because there is no guaruntee they'll get any in the future. It's better for younger players to go to the PL to be trained because they get more exposure to better football at their level and then when the time is right they get eased into first team football by working there way up.
Baines' left foot
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The big teams would get around it somehow. I.E. selling a player to a lower league team at a knock down fee but with a pre-set price already agreed for when they want to take him back.
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Joao Moutinho
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Also what about emergency loans, like if a league one team has two keepers and they both get injured, would they really want say a 17 year old in goal? No they'd want to bring in a loanee
Jacko93
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I understand that it's just the way it works these days, I just dont think it should.
What I mean is, is it fair that teams in certain positions struggle to be able to get players, be it cost, or wages, can loan a player that they can't actually afford and give themselves a distinct advantage over similar teams in the same position that have tried to be frugle, coach their own players and keep a settled team? The team who has loaned better quality players and had portions of the wages paid for them may well be promoted above the other teams, who end up languishing in the lower leagues. While they team who went up have the loan ended, they have to spend money to bring players in, invariably struggle, then go straight back down to start all over again, just taking £20m with them for 3 years. If clubs had to buy, or develop their players, it would mean that they are more settled when being promoted, could maybe give them a better opportunity and improve performances and levels of the teams around them.
With regards to Ross, I agree that the laon has benefitted him, which is why I suggested maybe loans only allowed of players under 21 for 3 years, which will cover any players who have just signed pro contracts.
What I mean is, is it fair that teams in certain positions struggle to be able to get players, be it cost, or wages, can loan a player that they can't actually afford and give themselves a distinct advantage over similar teams in the same position that have tried to be frugle, coach their own players and keep a settled team? The team who has loaned better quality players and had portions of the wages paid for them may well be promoted above the other teams, who end up languishing in the lower leagues. While they team who went up have the loan ended, they have to spend money to bring players in, invariably struggle, then go straight back down to start all over again, just taking £20m with them for 3 years. If clubs had to buy, or develop their players, it would mean that they are more settled when being promoted, could maybe give them a better opportunity and improve performances and levels of the teams around them.
With regards to Ross, I agree that the laon has benefitted him, which is why I suggested maybe loans only allowed of players under 21 for 3 years, which will cover any players who have just signed pro contracts.
Summerskin
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No, 'cause we'd be fooked...both in player development and the odd loanee helping us out.
steken1
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I agree for players age 22 and older and between sides from the same division.
Loaning a player to a club in a league or two below is mutually beneficial and helps the players development. Loaning a player to a side in the same division is just stockpiling talent.
It would help us and would help english football as we'd have a wider distribution of talent.
Loaning a player to a club in a league or two below is mutually beneficial and helps the players development. Loaning a player to a side in the same division is just stockpiling talent.
It would help us and would help english football as we'd have a wider distribution of talent.
I agree with this line of thought... It's an interesting question.
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