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Shed A Little Tear- Not!

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I don't know if you like me have been following the comedy situation that is developing across the road with regard to them not being able to select a player.

I find the whole thing the purest of comedy gold not because I necessasarily agree with the FIFA rule but the tears and genuine belief that because the player declares he doesn't want to play for his country that's the end of the matter.

For those that don't know there are very clear rules around players, around their contracts, around lots of things that maintain contract stability. You really can't pick and choose which of the rules you comply with and those that you won't. It comes as a whole package.

I very much doubt that any of the clubs that lost players to the AFCON were doing cartwheels at the possibility of losing their players for a few weeks mid season but when you sign a player any sensible club would do deep research and make sure of their position not just as seems to be the case here operate on an assumption that because a player says he has retired thats the end of it.

The Daily Mail has published several iterations of the same story and you get the same ill informed comments from breaching his human rights to challenging through the courts with they believe the victor being LFC.

Football operates in a bubble. Which other industry would you not just be able to give notice and change employers anytime at any point of your career? Where else wouldn't you be able to speak to other employers about joining them?

Football operates in Europe and indeed worldwide through FIFA, all countries FAs are subservient all clubs are subservient to their respective FAs. If you don't want to abide by the rules and try to operate outside them you get punished.Irrespective it would take years to challenge through the courts so through CAS would be their only option and I very much doubt that they would stand any chance of getting any sympathy there.

Bosman and Webster rulings are two examples where FIFA,UEFA the FA and consequently the clubs have had to change how they operate not because they felt generous to the needs of the players but very much as a trade off to maintain contract stability and as such FIFA has re written many a rule which has filtered down.

I had to give a double take when I read the comment that said that if the player was a postman he wouldn't be forced to play in the AFCON if selected. The irony is no one is forcing anyone to play but if you don't turn up when selected then if your International Federation takes it further you can't play for anyone else for the period of the tournament plus 5 days. It's not a new rule yet there seems to be surprise.

It seems that the player in question may well be selected to play at Plymouth to test matters which if true will be interesting for the possible consequences if Cameroon don't climb down and FIFA and the FA have to intervene will be far more than just getting kicked out of the FA cup.
 

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It's funny because it is happening to them, but it is a difficult one.
On the one hand, the player doesn't want to play international football, but on the other hand, it would leave the way open for players to pick and choose which games they are available for.

I reckon they will play him in the FA cup as any sanction won't hurt them in the league
 

It will be interesting to follow what happens in rugby, where you had Denny Solomona, a player for rugby league side Castleford being courted by rugby union side Sale. Castleford rejected all bids for him as he was their best player, so he announced his retirement from rugby league and then signed as a free agent in union. Cheap behaviour imo, but it does revolve around the differences in sport in that players can't simply resign from their current employer and move to a new one.
 
Always the victims, it's never their fault.

Matip doesn't want to be called up, so he isn't allowed to play away from the squad. Why is that so hard to understand?

Why are liverpool acting victimised? Like the rule had just been created for them?

It is these things that really annoy me about them. Why make a song and dance about it? Why try and get around the rule? Just accept it like every other team out there and shut up.
 
Realistically, if they play him against Plymouth, what sort of punishment can we expect?

Part of me believes nothing will happen to them.
 
Always the victims, it's never their fault.

Matip doesn't want to be called up, so he isn't allowed to play away from the squad. Why is that so hard to understand?

Why are liverpool acting victimised? Like the rule had just been created for them?

It is these things that really annoy me about them. Why make a song and dance about it? Why try and get around the rule? Just accept it like every other team out there and shut up.

Bet you couldn't write that without laughing Ash.
 

Always the victims, it's never their fault.

Matip doesn't want to be called up, so he isn't allowed to play away from the squad. Why is that so hard to understand?

Why are liverpool acting victimised? Like the rule had just been created for them?

It is these things that really annoy me about them. Why make a song and dance about it? Why try and get around the rule? Just accept it like every other team out there and shut up.
It sounds like a dumb rule. Player doesn't want to play for country so is barred from playing for club?

Just because a national coach wants you to leave your home and travel halfway across the world doesn't mean you should have to.

Unless it's in your contract, of course. But even then, why would you have that in your contract?
 
Bet you couldn't write that without laughing Ash.

haha this is all within character of them admittedly.

It sounds like a dumb rule. Player doesn't want to play for country so is barred from playing for club?

Just because a national coach wants you to leave your home and travel halfway across the world doesn't mean you should have to.

Unless it's in your contract, of course. But even then, why would you have that in your contract?

Thing is, if you didn't have the rule then does it not devalue national football?

Your messi's and ronaldos play for their country out of pride sure. but then how empty would AFCON be if players could choose between earning a place at their club/securing a money move and playing for their country? Just over time, less and less players would be arsed and eventually it would all become a joke.


On topic, read matip has now retired? Or was retired and didn't tell anyone?

I hope they ban him for weeks on end for it now. Least they deserve.
 

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