Seeking travel wisdom - California

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I can help. Napa is great...a bit posh. Sonoma is a bit less pretentious.

Gimme some specifics. San Jose is a big ugly American city...a post war boomtown. Used to be orchards...now housing developments for miles and miles. A town that had less than 100k people in 1950 that is now over 1 million. I suppose that could be interesting in some way.

SF and Oakland are far more interesting IMO.

Along the 101 freeway from SF to SJ are several cool towns that have their own charm.

About 30 minutes from SJ is Santa Cruz which is a very cool town. About a half hour further south is the city of Monterey...VERY cool town.

Anyway...I lived there from 2004 to 2016 and I explored a ton so I know a thing or two about it.
 

I did the same drive a few years ago but the other way round. I had a great day at Laguna Seca racetrack, just outside Monterey. It was great watching American cars racing.
 

I got married in vegas in 2016 then flew to Seattle and then drove to LA via Portland, napa (Sonoma) san Francisco, then across to palm springs then down to san diego then back up to LA to finish,

the driving was a fantastic experience, so many different views and experiences all in one trip (was over a few days like im not a machine) but the California coastal road is one of the best drives ive ever had, even the bits driving over the bogs where you feel like your going to get washed off the road by a wave was an experience

but yeah, if you like driving, its deffo worth it, wont be quite where you are but driving through the redwood forests as we entered California was really something to behold

I also drove up a mountain in san diego county to a town called Julian which is famous for producing something like 50% of the apple pies in the USA (so I read), about 5000ft above sea level, literally 12 places in the town and 9 of them are apple pie shops, the other 3 where (and literally signed as) "School", "Bank", and "jail"

funnily enough 'jail' was next to 'bank', convenient if anyone tried to rob it

sorry, none of that was probably much help to you, but point is.....drive, you wont regret it
 
Just been informed that Mrs Tree and I will be joining up with several other family members for a road trip holiday... Starting in San Francisco, then driving down to San Jose before heading out towards the pacific coast and driving it down to LA. There have been requests to include San Diego too.

Anyone been to this part of the world recently? Any particular things worth seeing / doing, specifically cultural, artsy or outdoorsy?

Obviously Alcatraz and Golden Gate bridge, and we're thinking maybe a day up to Napa Valley to see if the Yanks can compete with Stellenbosch and Franschoek... but otherwise, my knowledge of the Bay area is limited. San Jose I know nothing about.

Re the pacific coast bit - is driving a good option? Anyone tried the trains?

LA and San Diego... other than avoiding Compton and Disneyland, any tips for either of these places?

For info, we're going late march - early April. Flights are already booked, so we have to start in San Francisco and finish in LA.

Thanks in advance!

I live in San Diego so if you do need any info from the better of the two Southern Californian cities ping me and i'd be happy to help.
 

You mentioned pricing in your last post...Vegas is even worse in that regard. When I was in my early twenties, you could get a decent prime rib there for about $6. You can't even get a #1 at McDonald's for that now. This is what happens when you don't let the mob run it. @ilikecheese can back me up on this fact.

Yeah, you can get rooms at a decent rate at the older hotels (MGM Grand is my fave), but not a place for deals anymore. At least anywhere near the strip.

In San Diego, a friend recommended Stone Brewery. And if you like beer, San Diego has a whole bunch of swell places. Many in one little strip. Conveniently mapped here.

Those that are restaurants will likely have great food as well.
 
Yeah, you can get rooms at a decent rate at the older hotels (MGM Grand is my fave), but not a place for deals anymore. At least anywhere near the strip.

In San Diego, a friend recommended Stone Brewery. And if you like beer, San Diego has a whole bunch of swell places. Many in one little strip. Conveniently mapped here.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...ll=32.75916788811291,-117.13080721691892&z=14
Those that are restaurants will likely have great food as well.

Yep its an awesome brewery. Don't live too far away from it myself. Cool facility with n awesome Japanese garden. They have several stores and tasting rooms around San Diego now too.

In San Diego North County (were Stone's is) there are about 25 small to mid size breweries alone.

Stones restaurant tries to be too fancy though. great beer but food not so much.

The better ones are the smaller places downtown where they are purposely built as brewpubs. Much better. But heck go into any bar downtown nowadays and they have many taps and many choices of beers fromt the local breweries.

But yeah the place is full of them so many hard to keep track so good little place map you have linked haha!!
 
Have lived in the Bay area now for about 20 years and in that time have done several roadtrips and hosted quite a few UK friends/relatives who have covered the bits we've missed and the good news is that there is something for every taste - the harder trick is narrowing it down and not trying to pack so much in that you end up behind the wheel the entire time! However some things that might make that narrowing easier are a couple of practical issues.
1) Pacific coast drive is wonderful but a big mudslide has closed the section from Carmel to Cambria since 2017, expected opening is summer 2018 https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/09/08/big-surs-southern-access-to-stay-closed-for-one-year/
2) I haven't been up to the wine country since the fires so don't have firsthand experience but they were pretty extensive http://projects.sfchronicle.com/2017/interactive-map-wine-country-fires/. In good times imo the area is almost as pretty as Stellenbosch but no idea now. On the plus side places will be keen to attract tourists so you might get some good deals in what is often an expensive area, I prefer Sonoma to Napa. If you are into wineries but would rather skip until fully recovered then those depicted in the movie Sideways round Santa Ynez are not quite as scenic to visit but a lot cheaper/laid back than Napa and will likely be on your route anyway.

If you like hiking I'd say visiting Yosemite is a must, all of our guests have been gobsmacked by its beauty. The waterfalls will be spectacular at that time of year and large parts of the park should be accessible although a bad late storm might mean you need chains.
https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/spring.htm. Rather than stay in the valley or do the drive in from say Groveland we prefer to stay in one of the lodges/condos in Yosemite West which are great if you are part of group although can't remember what access is like at that time of year http://www.yosemitewest.com/maps.html. There are several entrances to the park, to vary the scenery I'd plan on going in one and out another https://www.myyosemitepark.com/park/which-yosemite-entrance. The two other parks Sequoia and Kings Canyon are also beautiful and a bit quieter but they may have limited services in April.

Weather wise you might get a couple of late season storms but April is heading into dry season and in SF in particular it is probably sunnier than than the summer given the fog then. Not great beach weather, at least until you get further south, but you should be able to find some great wildflower displays if you like hiking. Peak bloom very dependent on timing of our rain but here was 2017s display forecast http://www.visitcalifornia.com/attraction/californias-spring-2017-wildflower-forecast.

Unless you fancy visiting Death Valley I'd leave Las Vegas to a separate trip - it makes an excellent start/end point for a loop tour visiting Utah's wonderful natural parks even if you don't particularly like the city itself like me. I'd also skip San Jose, there are lots more interesting places to see.

Hubby hates theme parks and I'm not a fan of Hollywood so a lot of LA attractions pass us by but I love its gardens, Huntington in particular https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles...nical-gardens-and-hidden-oases-in-los-angeles and I am keen to visit the Getty center. Lots of great places to see round San Diego and Joshua tree park is beautiful but you do add in at least 6 hours of driving to/from even before you see anything given your flight out of LA.

tl/dr - Spend a few days in SF getting over jetlag seeing city with a day trip to either western wine country to avoid worst of fire damage or to Marin country/Point Reyes. Drive down Hwy 1 via Santa Cruz to Monterrey and Carmel. Spend a few days in area shopping in Carmel and visiting Monterey Bay aquarium including popping down to Big Sur. Head over to Yosemite via Arch rock entrance and spend a couple of days hiking. Leave via Fish camp and head back to coast to see Hearst Castle and explore some of Santa Barbara sights/wineries. Then either a couple of days in San Diego or LA itself.

pm me if need anything more!
 
Have lived in the Bay area now for about 20 years and in that time have done several roadtrips and hosted quite a few UK friends/relatives who have covered the bits we've missed and the good news is that there is something for every taste - the harder trick is narrowing it down and not trying to pack so much in that you end up behind the wheel the entire time! However some things that might make that narrowing easier are a couple of practical issues.
1) Pacific coast drive is wonderful but a big mudslide has closed the section from Carmel to Cambria since 2017, expected opening is summer 2018 https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/09/08/big-surs-southern-access-to-stay-closed-for-one-year/
2) I haven't been up to the wine country since the fires so don't have firsthand experience but they were pretty extensive http://projects.sfchronicle.com/2017/interactive-map-wine-country-fires/. In good times imo the area is almost as pretty as Stellenbosch but no idea now. On the plus side places will be keen to attract tourists so you might get some good deals in what is often an expensive area, I prefer Sonoma to Napa. If you are into wineries but would rather skip until fully recovered then those depicted in the movie Sideways round Santa Ynez are not quite as scenic to visit but a lot cheaper/laid back than Napa and will likely be on your route anyway.

If you like hiking I'd say visiting Yosemite is a must, all of our guests have been gobsmacked by its beauty. The waterfalls will be spectacular at that time of year and large parts of the park should be accessible although a bad late storm might mean you need chains.
https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/spring.htm. Rather than stay in the valley or do the drive in from say Groveland we prefer to stay in one of the lodges/condos in Yosemite West which are great if you are part of group although can't remember what access is like at that time of year http://www.yosemitewest.com/maps.html. There are several entrances to the park, to vary the scenery I'd plan on going in one and out another https://www.myyosemitepark.com/park/which-yosemite-entrance. The two other parks Sequoia and Kings Canyon are also beautiful and a bit quieter but they may have limited services in April.

Weather wise you might get a couple of late season storms but April is heading into dry season and in SF in particular it is probably sunnier than than the summer given the fog then. Not great beach weather, at least until you get further south, but you should be able to find some great wildflower displays if you like hiking. Peak bloom very dependent on timing of our rain but here was 2017s display forecast http://www.visitcalifornia.com/attraction/californias-spring-2017-wildflower-forecast.

Unless you fancy visiting Death Valley I'd leave Las Vegas to a separate trip - it makes an excellent start/end point for a loop tour visiting Utah's wonderful natural parks even if you don't particularly like the city itself like me. I'd also skip San Jose, there are lots more interesting places to see.

Hubby hates theme parks and I'm not a fan of Hollywood so a lot of LA attractions pass us by but I love its gardens, Huntington in particular https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles...nical-gardens-and-hidden-oases-in-los-angeles and I am keen to visit the Getty center. Lots of great places to see round San Diego and Joshua tree park is beautiful but you do add in at least 6 hours of driving to/from even before you see anything given your flight out of LA.

tl/dr - Spend a few days in SF getting over jetlag seeing city with a day trip to either western wine country to avoid worst of fire damage or to Marin country/Point Reyes. Drive down Hwy 1 via Santa Cruz to Monterrey and Carmel. Spend a few days in area shopping in Carmel and visiting Monterey Bay aquarium including popping down to Big Sur. Head over to Yosemite via Arch rock entrance and spend a couple of days hiking. Leave via Fish camp and head back to coast to see Hearst Castle and explore some of Santa Barbara sights/wineries. Then either a couple of days in San Diego or LA itself.

pm me if need anything more!

To whomever asked this question...be thankful, this is an opus from one who doesn't opine often. Cherish it.
 

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