Scotish Premier League

Latch · March 2, 2007

What is the point ? what pleasure can be had in winning this title ?
Imagine starting the season where your only topic of conversation is, will we finish first or second.
You have Celtic, Rangers, and next, but by a country mile, Hearts, two giants and a wannabe, the rest of the league is made up of teams, that, much like ancient Rome when christians were thrown to the lions, are only there to feed the need of the baying crowd, no purpose whatsoever other than to be served up as fodder every saturday afternoon to inflate the ego of the big two.
What about the crowds ?. imagine playing one week in front of 60 or 50;000, and the next, two men and a dog, i know it is not Celtic or Rangers' fault but they must wish they could play in our premiership, and actually be tested every game and where any success is truly seen as an achievment, winning the SPL must give the same satisfaction as finishing a paint by numbers picture, looks impressive but didn't require real ability.

The downside to the Big two leaving their cosy, success guaranteed home and trying their luck in England is that it would be to the detrement of the teams left behind, as no doubt the cash aquired from playing against the big boys is vital and probably depended on to balance their books.
Any views on this subject ? and before any Scotish members of this forum tell me to shut my big Welsh mouth, our ( Welsh ) PL, is made up of even more mediocre sides, but at least, in one respect at least, it is a fair one as they are more evenly matched.
Almost finished, bear with me, if anybody says the PL is not a level playing field, then i couldn't really argue too much, the difference between Man Utd and Watford for example, but fair play, on the whole it's a lot more equal than the SPL, the gap between Rangers, and, say Livingstone is a lot more than the gap between the [Poor language removed] and us, spurs, Toon, and Villa for example

In Scotland it's like David and Goliath, in the PL it's more like David and Victoria, and we all know who sometimes wears the trousers in that house.

Monty, no jokes about thumbs and looking closer to home (y)

monty · March 2, 2007

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I bet you are glad to get that off your chest Latch.

TBH I don't think the SPL is that much different to other PLs in small countries, it seems normal that at the outset only one or two teams are likely to win them. Those odds get bigger the large the support until you find in Italy, Spain, Germany and England it is as high as three or four. I rue the days when Carlisle, Northampton and the likes could make the old First Division and clubs like Ipswich, Norwich, Derby and Notts Forest all had chances at winning things.

Every now and again I get the feeling that football will implode, not only here but across other parts of Europe as well. If it does then may be it can ressurect itself and the old days will return. In that I mean when the teams were made up of players from their home town, not the other side of the world. Some may say that this is a pipe dream, if matters go on as they are right now football may go up in smoke:shock:

chicoazul · March 2, 2007

Theyre a proud footballing nation. I like them. See your point though.

Bruce Wayne · March 2, 2007

montyblue said:
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Monty, no jokes about thumbs and looking closer to home

I bet you are glad to get that off your chest Latch.

TBH I don't think the SPL is that much different to other PLs in small countries, it seems normal that at the outset only one or two teams are likely to win them. Those odds get bigger the large the support until you find in Italy, Spain, Germany and England it is as high as three or four. I rue the days when Carlisle, Northampton and the likes could make the old First Division and clubs like Ipswich, Norwich, Derby and Notts Forest all had chances at winning things. [/QUOTE]

To get the competition a European League will be formed by the G14. As for the SPL if they're happy to take the likes of Naysmith and McFadden back I really couldn't care

Latch · March 2, 2007

chicoazul said:
Theyre a proud footballing nation. I like them. See your point though.

I agree Chico, they are a proud footballing nation, my post was more aimed at the question should Celtic and Rangers be allowed or even want to be involved in our PL ?
Cardiff Swansea and Wrexham play in the English leagues, why shouldn't the big two in Scotland ?

Latch · March 2, 2007

montyblue said:
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Monty, no jokes about thumbs and looking closer to home

I bet you are glad to get that off your chest Latch.

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I didn't get anything off my chest Monty, i remembered your thumb shout at the end of my post, and only then because i was on about the beckams and victoria wearing the trousers, that was a joke as well although it could be true, as it is sometimes in my case.
I took no offence to your shout and meant nothing back in my post, if anything i was having a laugh at my own expense, please accept my apologies if you took my post the wrong way.

Ps, I'll try not to forget your birthday Jim.

monty · March 3, 2007

Latch, when saying I bet you were glad to get that off your chest, I was referring to the content of your post, nothing else, I'd forgotten that quip

As for Cardiff, Wrexham and Swansea playing in the English leagues, I would rather see them in the Welsh leagues than the big two in Scotland play in the Prem. What right would the Prem have to allow them direct entry over all the other league sides, what would they say internationally, ' you will have to form a GB team. In my book it is a non starter mate:shock:

Latch · March 3, 2007

montyblue said:
Latch, when saying I bet you were glad to get that off your chest, I was referring to the content of your post, nothing else, I'd forgotten that quip

As for Cardiff, Wrexham and Swansea playing in the English leagues, I would rather see them in the Welsh leagues than the big two in Scotland play in the Prem. What right would the Prem have to allow them direct entry over all the other league sides, what would they say internationally, ' you will have to form a GB team. In my book it is a non starter mate:shock:

probably right, although i have seen the subject come up before.

I miss-read your post, sorry Jim.