Redevelope Goodison could it be done?

[trigger the blue]

Having watched the copa del rey,i just wondered if Goodison could be redeveloped along the lines of the Mestalla stadium with its steep stands and intimidating atmosphere, with Goodison being land locked i think it would be a viable option,with a capacity of 55,000 would be ample for us!
The only problem how much would it cost?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

It could be done, but it's not feasible.

The outlay is too big to generate the additional revenue required.

 

[Topblue]

It could be done, but it's not feasible.

The outlay is too big to generate the additional revenue required.

Close thread so...

 

[Dom1878]

It cant be done...

..our only realistic things are either stay at Goodison (which isnt very realistic), move to the docks (which are being taken over by peel skyskrapers in the next few years) or a groundshare, which actually makes the most sense and would benefit both teams, but some fans are silly and wont consider it

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

I'd love to know how other grounds sit on the footprint we have, i.e how much demolition around would need to be done as well.

My 'arl fella reckons The Bernabeu doesn't appear that big, so what would fit there ?

 

[davek]

It can be done physically and financially if the will is there to explore different ways of funding than simply hoping a retail giant will throw £100M into your lap. Keioc mooted the idea of using an Equity Seat rights scheme that other clubs have followed in recent years, along with hotel and naming rights. The present board wouldn't want that complication though. They just want to sell their 75% of the shares to someone who'll meet their crazy valuation of Everton shares. It's too messy and long term for them.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

*perishes at the thought of 'Naming Rights"

 

[It's_Just_Not_Cricket]

Personally I am not so sure it could be done....There is a vid on youtube which makes some pro arguments though so i have added it below for completeness. Think it may be from the KEIOC movement....?

[video=youtube;B8PbMB6HD2k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8PbMB6HD2k[/video]

 

[Rook]

*perishes at the thought of 'Naming Rights"

Admit it you'd love playing at The Shack. The 100% Halal meat Tenneesee Fried Chicken Shack.

 

[Silas]

I think it could be done but would be complicated. Saying that, a new ground has been just as complicated!

 

[tsubaki]

Ironically, Valencia are trying to move out of the Mestalla but dont have the money to finish their (half-built) new ground.

As for Goodison, personally I think we dont have the money to redevelop it and its extremely questionable whether there is that much more money the club could make out of the matchday experience without getting more people in (given the current stature of the club, the current economic climate and the relative wealth of the surrounding area) - a better approach might be for Kenwrong et al to have a long look at the legal basis for the ban on standing areas, try and get one or two brought back, increase capacity (and funds) that way and to generally recognize Goodison's unique status as the oldest purpose-built football ground in England, one of the oldest in the world and as a long overdue antidote to all those modern, souless, money-extraction pits that everyone else has moved into.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

I don't think so. Unless we were able to buy quite a few of the surrounding properties, including the school.

 

[davek]

Ironically, Valencia are trying to move out of the Mestalla but dont have the money to finish their (half-built) new ground.

As for Goodison, personally I think we dont have the money to redevelop it and its extremely questionable whether there is that much more money the club could make out of the matchday experience without getting more people in (given the current stature of the club, the current economic climate and the relative wealth of the surrounding area) - a better approach might be for Kenwrong et al to have a long look at the legal basis for the ban on standing areas, try and get one or two brought back, increase capacity (and funds) that way and to generally recognize Goodison's unique status as the oldest purpose-built football ground in England, one of the oldest in the world and as a long overdue antidote to all those modern, souless, money-extraction pits that everyone else has moved into.

Wyness suggested this and was hammered for it. The trouble - apart from the emotional argument against it - is that it would be open to other football clubs too and, therefore, we'd gain no advantage.

 

[tsubaki]

Wyness suggested this and was hammered for it. The trouble - apart from the emotional argument against it - is that it would be open to other football clubs too and, therefore, we'd gain no advantage.

Some clubs would benefit as well (provided they brought their own standing areas back), but I would question whether we wouldnt see any advantage from it - we would almost certainly get more money in, it would increase the matchday crowd and most importantly wouldnt cost as much as a move or a full redevelopment.

 

[davek]

Some clubs would benefit as well (provided they brought their own standing areas back), but I would question whether we wouldnt see any advantage from it - we would almost certainly get more money in, it would increase the matchday crowd and most importantly wouldnt cost as much as a move or a full redevelopment.

If it was allowed and other clubs below us took the option up, Newcastle, Sunderland and Villa, all have bigger capacity and could benefit more and be able to fund their ambitions. Clubs like United and Arsenal, who coin it in as it is, would push on even further in terms of matchday revenue...not that you'd expect them to go down that route.

It's a desperate measure that screams out: 'we haven't got the smarts to commercially push on, so we'll sweat the only asset we have that we do produce cash from'.