Positive Child Support.

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youngblue66

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What could be more pleasant than a parent taking their child to play football for their local team on a weekend?
Well, if we can overlook the mimicking of their professional heroes as they feign an injury or do not respect the judgement of match officials, there has been an underlying issue for many years that seems to be now becoming more prevalent. It is an issue that should be addressed by the FA Chairman's England Commission tasked with improving our game from grass roots level as this could drive youngsters out of the game. What is the issue?


It is the abusive and aggressive behaviour of spectators, many of them parents of the players, who are threatening the very lifeblood of our game. A recent survey of 100 such spectators revealed that only one would consider becoming a referee because they would not be able to withstand the abuse they themselves were witnessing. These referees taking such abuse are sometimes very young and still learning the game and should they say 'enough is enough' well, no referee - no game, full stop.
Mal Lee, the founder of Don't X The Line Campaign and based in Liverpool says 'The touchlines at our junior leagues have become a breeding ground for verbal abuse, mainly directed at referees.
'Some of these pushy parents feel that they have to show their aggression and anger in front of the children. Do they realise what sort of message they are sending out to these children; the future of our country'.
It's not just verbal abuse, rival spectators have been seen facing up to each other with baseball bats leaving children crying; chasing referees from the pitch, forcing matches to be abandoned; and committee members leaving because of the violence and abusive language.
There are now too many parents living out their own 'football manager dream' at the expense of their children. Children as young as ten are being shouted at for 'not holding the line', not tackling hard enough because their opponent has recovered immediately - 'put your foot in' being the phrase, and remember this is on a full size pitch. Some youngsters don't know what 'a sweeper' is although they have been playing in that position all season. The kids don't know who to listen to at times, the parents or the manager.
 

Very often the refs are coaches from the opposition, to say they are homers 80% of the time is probably underestimating, due to the competitive nature of the game and the competitive nature of young boys they will challenge the ref when he's allowing his team to get away with things and then punishing them for the same.
Parents lose their rag when this is happening and they often have to stand by seeing their kid getting kicked all over i.e. hurt, with nothing being done.

Worse game last year for my lads team saw a grandad reffing and with us leading he gave his grandsons team ever bit of help he possibly could as a win meant they could go top of the league, they beat us 2-1 with 2 blatant pens denied (that even their parents commented on) and a free kick in dying mins where he made our wall go about 14 yds back, which on a mini pitch at that age the rules aren't even 10.

They won the league by a point & we got relegated by a point.
 
Is it the 'competitive nature' of the game and/or the pressure of winning that causes these games to get so out of hand then? Either can't be good for really young kids enjoying a game of football.
 
I remember reading about an amateur game in Brazil where the referee shot a player, then the ref got his limbs chopped off and his head put on the corner flag. There's no morale to this story really, just I suppose that it could be worse.
 

It's crazy, it'll get to a point where spectators aren't allowed. I remember for the short time I was on a team, there'd always be the abusive/aggressive parents thinking they're the ref. That's why I preferred the other sports I did - with Swimming the parents would be too far away for you to be able to hear them if they did decide to get angry, and with Karate - well, parents just weren't aggressive, usually because again, they couldn't stand right by the edge and because you weren't allowed to shout/distract. Support is brilliant, but not when it's by being aggressive/mean to the opponents.
 
It's crazy, it'll get to a point where spectators aren't allowed. I remember for the short time I was on a team, there'd always be the abusive/aggressive parents thinking they're the ref. That's why I preferred the other sports I did - with Swimming the parents would be too far away for you to be able to hear them if they did decide to get angry, and with Karate - well, parents just weren't aggressive, usually because again, they couldn't stand right by the edge and because you weren't allowed to shout/distract. Support is brilliant, but not when it's by being aggressive/mean to the opponents.
Totally agree with you and it would be such a shame if youngsters were driven from football to other sports like you seemed to be!
 
Is it the 'competitive nature' of the game and/or the pressure of winning that causes these games to get so out of hand then? Either can't be good for really young kids enjoying a game of football.

they want to win, some kids aren't that fussed but if you take that away from those that do then they lose something. all this 'no winners' nonsense is load of cack.
 
they want to win, some kids aren't that fussed but if you take that away from those that do then they lose something. all this 'no winners' nonsense is load of cack.
I would agree that at a certain age winning is important but not when I was managing an 'under 10's' team. They just wanted to play football with their mates, it was the adults that created this 'win at all costs' mentality.
 
I would agree that at a certain age winning is important but not when I was managing an 'under 10's' team. They just wanted to play football with their mates, it was the adults that created this 'win at all costs' mentality.

I'd go nuts if I got beat in a shootie in the street! Nobody taught me that, just the way people are. Winning and losing should always play a part in sport.
 

Kids will compete, some more than others, nowt wrong with it but I think youth football could do with a new way of thinking to make the best of it. The biggest change that could be made is to move away from full size pitches. It's crazy to have half-sized kids running round a full size pitch, it disadvantages smaller kids that may have skills but are put off by long ball/heavy tackling games and it discourages tighter ball control and interchange moves and more subtle skills development.
 
I would agree that at a certain age winning is important but not when I was managing an 'under 10's' team. They just wanted to play football with their mates, it was the adults that created this 'win at all costs' mentality.

lad just finished u11's, at u10's with a new team they were promoted 3 times due to filling their boots in every game and only conceding 1 goal to about 70, it wasn't doing them any good being against weaker teams and ended up finishing in middle of their final 'C' division, the fact that they had promotion alone made it competitive, and that's where the point about refs came in to play as some 'unbeaten at home' teams would have their coach or someones grandad reffing each week, it was a very evenly matched division so the advantage those teams were gaining got them to the top and promoted/ rewarded, thats why the kids would lose it when the ref was being blatantly biased.

the Respect thing went out of the window when the ref was making it up to suit.


I see the refs/lack of refs as 1 of the main probs, if it's a kid then any assessor or even their parent thats accompanying them should be able to point out any mistakes during the game as they are learning (parents accept that) and their mistakes can have an impact on the result & the kids.

Kids will compete, some more than others, nowt wrong with it but I think youth football could do with a new way of thinking to make the best of it. The biggest change that could be made is to move away from full size pitches. It's crazy to have half-sized kids running round a full size pitch, it disadvantages smaller kids that may have skills but are put off by long ball/heavy tackling games and it discourages tighter ball control and interchange moves and more subtle skills development.

u9 & u10 play 7 a side on 1/3 size pitch with small samba goals.

u11 & u12 play 9 a side, pitch gets bigger and goals but still not full size

from u13 on they play 11's on a full size pitch.

offside brought in at different ages depending on the league, usually during 9 a side.
 
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