6 + 2 Point Deductions

Nottingham Forest is extremely disappointed with the decision of the Commission to impose a sanction on the Club of four points, to be applied with immediate effect.

Notwithstanding our disappointment, we thank the Commission for agreeing to deal with this matter on an expedited basis. The Club considers it to be essential for the integrity of the league to have charges resolved in the season in which they are issued.

We were extremely dismayed by the tone and content of the Premier League’s submissions before the Commission.

After months of engagement with the Premier League, and exceptional cooperation throughout, this was unexpected and has harmed the trust and confidence we had in the Premier League.

That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.

We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.

Whilst the Premier League may have called into question the Club’s business plan, the Club maintains that it responsibly balanced compliance with PSR with important investment into the squad to give us the ability to compete in the league for the first time in over 20 years.

Even after the Club had missed the PSR reporting deadline, it still took steps to ensure Brennan Johnson was sold before the end of the transfer window. That was a clear demonstration of our respect and support for PSR.

The Commission's decision raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs. The player transfer market is a highly specialised trading environment that cannot be compared to the sale of normal products and services.

There will be occasions when a player transfer cannot be completed in the first half of a transfer window and can only be completed at the end of that window. This should not be a reason for the condemnation of a club. For this not to be recognised by the Commission or the Premier League should be a matter of extreme concern for all fans of our national game.

Of wider concern for all aspirant clubs is the disturbing effect this decision will have on the operation of the player trading model. This is the only model by which clubs outside of the small group at the very top end of the Premier League can realistically advance up the football pyramid.

The rationale of the Commission is that clubs should only invest after they have realised a profit on their player development. This reasoning destroys mobility in the football pyramid and the effect of the decision will be to drastically reduce the room for manoeuvre for all such clubs, leading to the stagnation of our national game.

We believe that the high levels of cooperation the Club has shown during this process, and which are confirmed and recorded in the Commission's decision, were not reciprocated by the Premier League.


lol lol lol lol lol
Some seriously wet beds in Nottingham it seems. I really hope they appeal and get a pannel who use our penalty as precedent to increase theirs to 6 or 7 points.

I wonder if I could get HMRC to back off if I didn't pay my tax bill untill 2 months later because I had a 'better deal' in the pipeline? 🤔
 
Compare that Forest statement to ours after the appeal. We'd had to play for 4 months with a 10 point deduction, reduced to 6 and look at the clubs response...

Satisfied. Particularly pleased. Positive outcome.

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The timeframe argument is strange on their end. Correct me if I'm wrong but for our first charge there were no agreed timeframes, hence why the PL sought to expedite the process. Us not agreeing to the expedition was not to obstruct the process, but to ensure if was carried out diligently.

The Forest interpretation of events should be corrected by our club publicly.

Yep.

Theyre using what happened to us to point fingers at the league, in turn saying how better they were at cooperating
 

Compare that Forest statement to ours after the appeal. We'd had to play for 4 months with a 10 point deduction, reduced to 6 and look at the clubs response...

Satisfied. Particularly pleased. Positive outcome.

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They and the previous incumbents are the sole reason we are in this mess, all totally incompetent this has been proved beyond all means. I hate them Moshiri, Kenwright and the rest of the absolute rabble, all sworn we were innocent and had nothing to worry about, they all should be ashamed.
 
Wonder what number(wang) of points will City get docked?

Going for 3, personally, which will no doubt edge the RS to the title somehow.
It will definitely be however many hands the r/s the league. I'm praying Arsenal are ahead at the time, although, last game of the season Arse need to win for leagie we need win to stay up.handing title to the banjo pluckers. That's the story sky want 👍
 

Compare that Forest statement to ours after the appeal. We'd had to play for 4 months with a 10 point deduction, reduced to 6 and look at the clubs response...

Satisfied. Particularly pleased. Positive outcome.

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There's are hollow words though as they've took it on the chin piggy backing on the hypocrisy we went through.

Theyre happy with it behind the scenes.
 
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Nottingham Forest is extremely disappointed with the decision of the Commission to impose a sanction on the Club of four points, to be applied with immediate effect.

Notwithstanding our disappointment, we thank the Commission for agreeing to deal with this matter on an expedited basis. The Club considers it to be essential for the integrity of the league to have charges resolved in the season in which they are issued.

We were extremely dismayed by the tone and content of the Premier League’s submissions before the Commission.

After months of engagement with the Premier League, and exceptional cooperation throughout, this was unexpected and has harmed the trust and confidence we had in the Premier League.

That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.

We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.

Whilst the Premier League may have called into question the Club’s business plan, the Club maintains that it responsibly balanced compliance with PSR with important investment into the squad to give us the ability to compete in the league for the first time in over 20 years.

Even after the Club had missed the PSR reporting deadline, it still took steps to ensure Brennan Johnson was sold before the end of the transfer window. That was a clear demonstration of our respect and support for PSR.

The Commission's decision raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs. The player transfer market is a highly specialised trading environment that cannot be compared to the sale of normal products and services.

There will be occasions when a player transfer cannot be completed in the first half of a transfer window and can only be completed at the end of that window. This should not be a reason for the condemnation of a club. For this not to be recognised by the Commission or the Premier League should be a matter of extreme concern for all fans of our national game.

Of wider concern for all aspirant clubs is the disturbing effect this decision will have on the operation of the player trading model. This is the only model by which clubs outside of the small group at the very top end of the Premier League can realistically advance up the football pyramid.

The rationale of the Commission is that clubs should only invest after they have realised a profit on their player development. This reasoning destroys mobility in the football pyramid and the effect of the decision will be to drastically reduce the room for manoeuvre for all such clubs, leading to the stagnation of our national game.

We believe that the high levels of cooperation the Club has shown during this process, and which are confirmed and recorded in the Commission's decision, were not reciprocated by the Premier League.


lol lol lol lol lol
We were in discussion with the PL before we were in breach of the PSR looking for guidance on how we could stay within the limits, and they still hammered us. I thought that braking PSR was automatic 6 points, and then 2 points for every 5 million above the limit. Or at least that was the rules when we were done before Christmas.
 

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