6 + 2 Point Deductions

[The T-Dex]

Flabber suffuciently gasted, no doubt.

I'm without fathom. It's left me.

 

[ForestAreMagic]

Hmmm

Punished for overspending by £95m, when for 2/3 of the period you were in a league which operates at a much lower level in terms of ability and cost. Transfer fees and wages were obviously going to be much lower. You've spent so much in the first year in the prem, it has meant you've already breached 2 years' of allowance!

That said, Forest shows what a useless set of rules they are. Ok, so they've been reckless with spending and flouting the rules, but surely any club coming up has to spend to survive?
Burnley, Sheff Utd and Luton are good examples of teams not overspending.

I agree with you

Forest put themselves at risk by breaking the rules, but the rules are garbage. They want promoted clubs to be cannon fodder.

 

[ForestAreMagic]

Club statement

The Official Website of Nottingham Forest Football Club: get the latest news, highlights, fixtures and results, tickets and more.

www.nottinghamforest.co.uk

 

[Rita_Poon]

Hmm.

forest 4 points for a lesser time spent in the PL and excessive spending over the allowed losses.
Everton 6 points for a breach over the three consecutive seasons.

Reckon this means the supposed second charge Everton face can be considered to have been settled already?

 

[Melchizedek]

It's all made up mate

Well it also opens the stupid punishment door - 4 points for Forest, 6 points for us (because we didn't sit down and agree with the punishment or whatever???) and then 4 more for us because... I dunno, we play in Blue let's say.

Why is it 4, why do we have 6, what's the point of these if it's basically Numberwang with point deductions?

It's all made up mate. The IC isn't really independent and is just doing Master's bidding. For one reason or another we are enemy number 1 to the PL, and we will be treated as such.

 

[b-rad]

It's staggering to think that of all the mitigations we and Forest presented (some more dubious than others), the only ones that had any bearing was:
Forest cooperated very well, so here's 2 points back

wtf!?

 

[Cake]

The PL have got hold of us by the taters and we have got hold of them by the taters. Their grip is tighter though because money is all that matters to Moshiri.

We've been told to take the 6 and shut up or they'll say where 'Moshiri's money' really came from. The PL know if they do that they make themselves look even weaker and more incompetent in allowing him in, in the first place, plus there's a chance Masters will take a diving header off a balcony while on holiday but they're prepared to gamble because Moshiri is now selling and will not be investigated by any independent regulator.

Mexican stand-off.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Wonder what number(wang) of points will City get docked?

Going for 3, personally, which will no doubt edge the RS to the title somehow.

 

[ashwuk76]

I agree with you

Forest put themselves at risk by breaking the rules, but the rules are garbage. They want promoted clubs to be cannon fodder.

Shame on your Clun for effectively saying... wah wah wah Everton were worse then us.... wah wah wah

 

[The binman chronicles]

Nottingham Forest is extremely disappointed with the decision of the Commission to impose a sanction on the Club of four points, to be applied with immediate effect.

Notwithstanding our disappointment, we thank the Commission for agreeing to deal with this matter on an expedited basis. The Club considers it to be essential for the integrity of the league to have charges resolved in the season in which they are issued.

We were extremely dismayed by the tone and content of the Premier League’s submissions before the Commission.

After months of engagement with the Premier League, and exceptional cooperation throughout, this was unexpected and has harmed the trust and confidence we had in the Premier League.

That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.

We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.

Whilst the Premier League may have called into question the Club’s business plan, the Club maintains that it responsibly balanced compliance with PSR with important investment into the squad to give us the ability to compete in the league for the first time in over 20 years.

Even after the Club had missed the PSR reporting deadline, it still took steps to ensure Brennan Johnson was sold before the end of the transfer window. That was a clear demonstration of our respect and support for PSR.

The Commission's decision raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs. The player transfer market is a highly specialised trading environment that cannot be compared to the sale of normal products and services.

There will be occasions when a player transfer cannot be completed in the first half of a transfer window and can only be completed at the end of that window. This should not be a reason for the condemnation of a club. For this not to be recognised by the Commission or the Premier League should be a matter of extreme concern for all fans of our national game.

Of wider concern for all aspirant clubs is the disturbing effect this decision will have on the operation of the player trading model. This is the only model by which clubs outside of the small group at the very top end of the Premier League can realistically advance up the football pyramid.

The rationale of the Commission is that clubs should only invest after they have realised a profit on their player development. This reasoning destroys mobility in the football pyramid and the effect of the decision will be to drastically reduce the room for manoeuvre for all such clubs, leading to the stagnation of our national game.

We believe that the high levels of cooperation the Club has shown during this process, and which are confirmed and recorded in the Commission's decision, were not reciprocated by the Premier League.

Sounds like non cooperation to me. Extra 2 point deduction for them.

 

[Victus]

That Forest statement doesn't sound compliant at all to me

 

[Nymzee]

Wonder what number(wang) of points will City get docked?

Going for 3, personally, which will no doubt edge the RS to the title somehow.

City will get +11 points added on.

 

[mahermi1]

On the face of it, our IC started from 12 and worked downwards. Forests worked from zero, up to 6, then back down to 4 because they brought Tunnocks wafers to the hearing.

Apparently the PL wanted 8pts for Forest and knocked two off for co-operation.
The Commission thought differently they thought Forest deserved 6 and two off for co-operation.

 

[marnie]

Take them to FFFIN Court and delay the start of next season.Now that would be fun.

 

[Rita_Poon]

forest back into the mire is interesting because the pressure goes up a notch and they're battling with luton at the moment. Should it be between those two, it means one will hopefully be fodder next season. Lets say Leicester, leeds and Ipswich up for next season.