Yup 4 off then probably 4 on. So basically 10’again
why will it be?
why will it be?
tommytowne
Player Valuation: £50m
Just listened to Kieran Maguire and his take on the second lot of charges.
He's saying that a big dollop of double jeopardy, a bit more knowledge by the PL on how the first lot played out, and the apparent fact that these charges cover two of the three years we've already been punished for, then a minimal points deduction or suspended sentence the likely outcome.
He's saying that a big dollop of double jeopardy, a bit more knowledge by the PL on how the first lot played out, and the apparent fact that these charges cover two of the three years we've already been punished for, then a minimal points deduction or suspended sentence the likely outcome.
PKwalnuts
Player Valuation: £10m
This feels very carefully organised by the Premier League to be the ultimate deciders of our relegation fate with the power using these timescales to deduct us enough after season ends or just before to ensure we are down.
Gobshytes need obliterating
Club is a patsy and cowardly for not going Nuke.
Gobshytes need obliterating
Club is a patsy and cowardly for not going Nuke.
If we are going solely off the concept in the EFL of double jeopardy, the starting points for us is a penalty which is 1/3 of the original penalty, because 2 of those years have already been punished.
So if that's the case, the starting point for us is a further 2 points deduction - before considering mitigation. I think it's close to inevitable that we get another penalty, but based on what I have read, I would also be hopeful it's limited to 1 or 2 points.
It's not satisfactory at all to me. I'm really not at all happy. But that's my honest opinion based on what I've seen today. I think a points deduction for Forest is virtually inevitable now as well, since they've said in the findings that the starting point of any breach is a points deduction.
tommytowne
Player Valuation: £50m
I've already apologised for my oversight.
All that effort put in by everyone from fan groups, mp’s, mouthpieces, tens of thousands of fans etc. for a measly 4 points.
It feels like a massive kick in the teeth tbh.
The clubs response is a complete disgrace and a spit in the face of all who battled for them.
It feels like a massive kick in the teeth tbh.
The clubs response is a complete disgrace and a spit in the face of all who battled for them.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Might be a different amount Matty. I'm just saying if 6 is the punishment, then we know we can get 2 off set in stone. Then it's up to the lawyers to try and fight the double jeopardy part to reduce further.
haha sorry mate, I didn’t realise how much this thread had moved on since I last checked.
canuckblue
Player Valuation: £50m
While the result is extremely underwhelming, did anyone really expect to get all 10 back? There was no way the PL would allow an "independent" commission to do that.
Not for the first time, I feel like the leadership of the club have let the supporters down.
I feel embarrassed again by their response.
tommytowne
Player Valuation: £50m
I was in a state of delirium at the time.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £40m
I think this is very important to remember. I still think 6 points is harsh for accountancy breaches.
But you are right, I think the club know full well Moshiri took the piss and didn’t think anything would come of it, and when you read the judgements it’s clear we were trying to plead our way out of it. So 6 points probably comes as a measure of relief to them. We also need to remember how much worse things would be if they hadn’t allowed some pretty dubious Covid numbers.
Regardless of whether we are scapegoats Moshiri’s recklessness put us in the crosshairs.
