6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Drico]

It doesn't change his record when he was here which was the best period to be an Everton fan since the 80s.

Nah, that was Joe Royle's 18 months - where we won something - and then Roberto's first season - where we played some football.

Moyes was admirable in a non-winning, non-exciting kind of way. He did a job...for Bill. There was no fantasy or trophies in any of that, though.

 

[matty1878]

Still think it's an absolute joke we've any deduction given the mitigating circumstances....

Also surely this means that forest will surely be hit with 6 pounts too?

Would anyone be surprised if we got another 6 resulting in the 12 the prem originally wanted?

Hopefully we follow spurs lead and take it further, it took them two appeals but they got all theirs back

spurs have money

they won’t do another 6

 

[Moderatelywarmwater]

We have submitted our accounts, the 2nd charge is based on them.

So yes.

But crucially they contain the same issues as last time (although we have no idea by what sun) and our appeal in these issues was dismissed

 

[Goat]

Based on what?

The punishment here seems to he a benchmark of, break the rules, you're getting 6-points.

I'd argue at the worst for Forest, they'll get a deduction which matches ours.

Well we "tried" to avoid breaching.

Forest didn't even try.

 

[The Blue Watch]

You know it’s not football anymore when the league table is in the hands of a few, and no one knows where they stand

 

[matty1878]

Well we "tried" to avoid breaching.

Forest didn't even try.

they have to slammed mate

 

[Infernus]

If Forest now only get 6 points, given that their breach is supposed to be a hell of a lot larger than ours, I wonder what Everton’s reaction will be to that?

 

[Connor]

Second charge to be dismissed or perhaps about 2 points, for me, Clive

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Proper smooth brain lizards.

Smooth brain lizards....I like that.

 

[Goat]

Considering our debts, strongly suspect a 3rd charge is looming.

Can see us getting charged every season now.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

So what ? How is getting hit with 6 points for breaching the rules, getting off with it ? Getting off with it would be no punishment at all

I’m not saying we’re “getting off with it” mate, but I’m sure the prem came out and said that for breaching the rules by going over there is a 6 pt deduction, and that is something we admitted too.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I just don't see how we would manage to lose so much more money than year 2 in this calculation though

It's a strange one to be honest

My best guess is it's interest on debt

And I don't see how it would be right to be punished under sustainability rules for costs incurred on debt

 

[barneygumble]

I'm reading our statement that we're working closely with the PL over the next sanction, I'm hoping the willing and helping will leave us in a situation where our deduction matches Nottingham Forest, but the total is significantly less.

 

[Dixieslaces]

Because it could prejudice the hearing

If you have an appraisal with you boss, but you've just called him out as an idiot somewhere else, do you think he / she is going to be looking at you with any favour?

Unless they are actually idiots and actually need disciplining/sacking themselves!


I think we go and we go hard after them now, they have shown their true colours and it isnt looking good for them

Hit em Harder than ever now

 

[John BCN]

They only found in our favour for two things. First that the original IC should have followed EFL precedent. Second that the conclusion that EFC had been less than honest was incorrect. All other matters dismissed

Thanks for that. So, in summary, for the next charges, it's unlikely that any mitigation will be accepted from either us or Forest. They will use the EFL guidelines on how many points to deduct from each club. So, whether we get more or less than Forest could depend on exactly how much each club went over the limit.