6 + 2 Point Deductions

[matty1878]

should of never have been one to begin with there punished us and that’s it

 

[SwedishToffee]

We have sold players and no way had a sporting advantage as we have not bought anyone.

I just think there is strong mitigation for the 2nd charge as the they are taking this over a 3 year period.

It will be interesting to know what amount the 2nd breach is and how much it is compared to Forest

Yes, I agree that both the trend (that we have had a net positive transfer balance) and double jeopardy could save us from another deduction, but then again, I would have thought so too for the first breach.

I guess we have another couple of fun months ahead of us not knowing what the league table actually looks like.

 

[Sharpattack]

FYI, we are currently 8/1 to go down. Not bad odds if we get a second deduction.

Great, let’s bet on the club getting destroyed.

 

[Walken]

How do you work that out? If we get 6 luton are only a point ahead of us. Hardly needs a collapse

Yeah thats true actually, hopefully this takes the wind out of their sails

 

[matty1878]

Not if the other charge is not scrapped.

well obvs

 

[barneygumble]

I think the smartest approach is to plan for a further 6 points, isn't it?

If you end up 7 points above Luton, you're safe; you draw a line and turn your attention to the people who got us there. The first place, Moshiri, Usmanov, DBB and the late chairman

 

[Jebus_lives]

Forrest are delighted with this - they are saying that they are defo staying up if they are only hit with 6 points, prefer to be us then them like.

If they get hit with 6 points from here they'll be on 18 points

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Four points will be key being ahead of Forest.

Or 7 ahead of Luton to be doubly sure.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

No idea mate.

I can't get the club saying they had no choice to breach again out of my head.

We had a choice.

Nah, they’re actually not wrong (albeit they were flying way too close to the wind either way)

We disagreed with the calculations prior to the first charge. What could be discounted etc

First panel finds in favour of the PL on the calculations. We then have to use those calculations on the second set of accounts, which puts us in breach.

There was no time between the first hearing and the submission of the second set of accounts to do anything about it.

 

[T LEAFE]

So is the 2nd charge decision after the season ends but would it apply to this season or next?

 

[MIKE85]

I'm not in any way qualified to interpret this, but when I try and read it, I would be betting on us getting hit again with the 2nd charge.

Does anyone know the EFL judgments on second offenses or breaches? Are they milder or harsher?

 

[WycombeToffee]

If we get hit again for a further 6 it leaves us 2pts below Luton, that's the scenario we need to be planning for

Surely if two of the three years (for the second charge) overlap with the first, then it will only be a further two points deducted? That's the logical conclusion

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

How did get off with it when we still got hit for 6 points ?

Because we admitted to breaching the rules mate?

 

[John BCN]

They accepted 2 of our 9 grounds of mitigation. Does anyone know if the Richarlison one was accepted? Hopefully not, as if it's been rejected it leaves Forest with no defence at all.

 

[Jcr1878]

Interesting. According to the official judgement, our losses across the three seasons in question were: Season one: £55million. Season two: £55 million. Season three: £9 million.

Now that Season one has dropped off, the figures for the second breach are therefore: Season one: £55 million. Season two :£9 million. Season three: ?????

They acknowledged that we slammed the brakes on in the third season, and we definitely carried that on into 22/23, so I would even be surprised if it turns out we really have gone over the £105 million this time??

So we'd need to go over 41 million in losses for this year to breach? I don't see how we possibly could with the player sales, wage reduction, lack of transfers in etc