6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Moomin]

We admitted breaking P&S rules with mitigating factors.

Thank you for confirming.

 

[James Patrick]

We did get found guilty though.

Found ? We admitted guilt (i.e. we had breached).

 

[Moomin]

Found ? We admitted guilt (i.e. we had breached).

We originally denied it and claimed to be innocent.

The cynic could say this was done on purpose to stop any punishment taking place that season.

 

[Walken]

Waiting until after today is a bit suspect isn't it?

 

[Bez2k2k]

By that logic, if we get points back we shouldn't play any further games this season.

There's no sporting advantage to getting points back that we should have kept in the first place.

I just meant for tonight’s game.

 

[MrGrumpy]

What rules changed?

During the 3 year period certain parts of building a stadium was covered then got changed and that part of the reason we went over

 

[jazzy]

Worst case scenario is we don't get anything back and we get a further 10 points taken off in the same season because the PL are tools are cant work out how many points we should get on a pro rata basis...
That would technically currently puts us bottom on 9 points (I know we won't get hit with the further punishment until later this year, but for the sake of painting a picture). You would imagine forest would also get slapped with 10 points (minimum), so the bottom 4 of the table would be:
Forest- 14
Burnley - 13
Sheffield U - 13
Us - 9 (potentially 12 after tonight)
Its not a great situation but we could definitely fight our way out of that. And thats worst case scenario.

Sorry , that's not the worst case scenario.

We could get more than 10 points for the 2nd deduction - unlikely but who knows.

But , in addition, we could go into administration if 777 fail the fit and proper owners test and Moshiri can't / won't fund day to day expenditure.

Then a further 9 points deducted.

How likely is all that?

I genuinely don't know but that is the worst case scenario.

 

[Moomin]

Waiting until after today is a bit suspect isn't it?

If it was bad news they wouldn't want to do it just before a game live on telly.

Also wouldn't want a reason for people to say it influenced the game.

 

[Llyrap]

We plead guilty to an overspend of £9.7m - unless I'm mistaken it's not about appealing the guilty verdict but purely the extent of the punishment. IMO a points deduction even for £19.5m breach is inappropriate. The PL should have put in place a tariff when setting the rules.

Everton accepted a £9.7 million breach. The Premier League asserted and the Commission found that the breach was £19.5 million.

Colin Chong said we were appealing the outcome. He goes on to comment on the punishment but do we know if the difference in the extent of the breach is being appealed?

We do not know the extent of the breach for the second charge and that is why it would be good to know. If the 2nd breach is less than 10 million then this appeal could impact whether the second referral goes ahead.

 

[Moomin]

During the 3 year period certain parts of building a stadium was covered then got changed and that part of the reason we went over

Which rule changed?

 

[efcfanwirral]

If it was bad news they wouldn't want to do it just before a game live on telly.

Also wouldn't want a reason for people to say it influenced the game.

That's actually an interesting thought, its not just us playing. Imagine the freedom we'd play with if we had 10 points back announced today? Its probably best to leave it to a non matchday for sporting integrity reasons, if that's what happens

 

[Evertonthat]

Thank you for confirming.

Anytime... Now about those mitigating factors...

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

This whole lack of info/date of appeal result just shows how inept they are. ANY other business situation like this and there would be a date given for the result of the appeal, not some 3 month guessing game. Atrocious by them tbh

 

[matty1878]

if would be delightful if 3 later
6 tomorrow

9 means we are upppppooo

 

[MrGrumpy]

This whole lack of info/date of appeal result just shows how inept they are. ANY other business situation like this and there would be a date given for the result of the appeal, not some 3 month guessing game. Atrocious by them tbh

It’s a joke isn’t it.