Players/fans - fans/players

[SerenityNigh]

It’s a reciprocal relationship, but the players bear immediate responsibility.

 

[The Speke Spectre]

It’s a reciprocal relationship, but the players bear immediate responsibility.

It'd be nice to see one of the Sams trying to get a bit of atmosphere going.

 

[Tree13]

I think it depends on how the team are doing, at the minute most fans are turning up expecting us to be terrible so when the game starts that way the atmosphere is flat. It's up to the players to then lift the crowd by putting some effort in and looking like they're up for it.

When the team are performing better (I know it has been a while since this happened!), then the crowd will usually be bouncing before the game and the players feed off this.

This.

There is no automatic right to praise and encouragement for those who are putting in little effort and achieving nothing of note. You want support? Go out there and do something that EARNS support.

Even more specifically to top level sportspeople is the need for their performance to be completely independent of emotional factors - they should be playing at their very best every week, be the crowd loud or quiet, supportive or hostile. They're getting £100k a week FFS, and the worst they are hearing is some booing.

 

[Adam-GOTTV]

It's a bit of both for me. Of course, nobody is going to be cheering at 3-0 down but then the other week we were 3-0 up and we started booing a sub. Obviously it's up for debate if that was the right or wrong thing to do, but my point is it works both ways.

 

[Big Neville Southall]

Sounds like some have an us and them attitude, us the fans, them the club.

Whereas it used to be "we", we are Everton, we'll do what we can on and off the terraces. Players do what they can on the pitch. Win together, lose together. We won/lost today, but now it is more we won/they lost.

 

[Saint Domingo]

There hasn’t been a player in blue that hasn’t been backed by the fans immediately but some of them losevthst by displaying no effort at all. This current team has been supported multiple times but they will not respond so now the crowd has stopped bothering.

 

[TraffordBlue]

I think it depends on how the team are doing, at the minute most fans are turning up expecting us to be terrible so when the game starts that way the atmosphere is flat. It's up to the players to then lift the crowd by putting some effort in and looking like they're up for it.

When the team are performing better (I know it has been a while since this happened!), then the crowd will usually be bouncing before the game and the players feed off this.

Don't agree there in terms of the games at Goodison. Have had a season ticket for 18 years so just going off my own experience but from the Moyes years onwards, there seems to have become a bit of complacency from the fans in games where we expect to win. I think even if we're playing well and in good form and a team that's say 15th comes to Goodison like a Crystal Palace the atmosphere is flat.

Regarding the original post I think it works both ways. I'd like the crowd to be a bit more up for it from the start but all the players have to do is throw a few tackles etc and the crowd will wake up. Far too often they don't manage it so at the end of the day, they have ways of getting the crowd on their side but they fail to do it. It's a simple expectation from our fans and not too much to ask.

 

[TraffordBlue]

Our crowd always respond to winning corners and having shots too. So when our team barely muster a shot it's not surprising that the crowd don't feel like they can be bothered.

 

[Yarrgh]

I expected a Tommy Cooper thing from this thread title. Booo!

 

[nsno-chris]

Should have a starting 11 vs 11 ketheads from the street end death match

Who ever wins claims bragging rights for the blame game