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Platini suggests sin bin for yellow cards

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European football chief Michel Platini has called for yellow cards to be replaced by a sin-bin.

Michel Platini
"I would make it like rugby, punishing the offender with 10 or 15 minutes out of the game," he said in an interview with Spanish sports daily newspaper AS.

"It is an idea. Now it needs to mature and see if it really is good for the game. It is a proposal to be explored."
Uefa president Platini also backed the idea of allowing national cup champions to take part in the Champions League.
Under the existing in-game disciplinary system a player who is shown a straight red card or two yellow cards in the same game is immediately sent off and cannot be replaced.
However, if a player picks up a certain number of yellow cards spread over several matches they will be suspended for future games, and it is this aspect that most concerns Platini.

He believes a sin-bin would be a fairer punishment because "that way, the benefit goes to the team he is playing against, in the same match, instead of a sanction by cards which is carried out against a third team, the next on the calendar".
The former France captain, who won 76 international caps between 1976-87 and has run Uefa since 2007, also believes goalkeepers who concede a penalty should not be sent off.
"It seems excessive," he said. "The penalty is itself already is punishment enough.
"I think it's something that everyone in Fifa and Uefa agree, but one or two of the countries that make up the International Board are unwilling to change."
Regarding the subject of Champions League qualification, which is currently restricted to where teams finish in their domestic leagues, Platini backed plans to also include winners of domestic cup competitions.
"I agree with this proposal, which we have debated many times," he said. "But when it comes time to vote, countries that don't want to cede a place for the cup champion are in the majority."

Surprised nobody's started a thread on this. Thought? Personally, i think it's one of his more rational views. I was always a fan when i was younger, a little bit more cautious these days, but that's mainly due to the horrific standard of refereeing, especially in this country.

I like the fact he's noted that it should be a yellow for keepers who concede a pen - never understood that argument, deny a goalscoring opportunity so it's a red, but the team still has the chance of the goalscorining opportunity because of the penalty.

anyway, back to the discussion at hand, yellows get branded out way too easily these days, more common sence has to be introduced, you see players getting yellows because they're a split second too late in a 50/50. people getting booked because of an accidental hand-ball which leads to a pen etc.

if they'll be off the pitch for 10 mins, it may make refs think more and be more leniant which is what we all want to see really. He makes a great point with yellows affecting the next opposition. For example rooney got a yellow yesterday for dissent against us and yet newcastle will be the benefiters instead of us, bit silly really.

There is also the case that it may improve the game. These days you see many yellows where a player "takes one for the team" so to speak. For example Giggs brought down jagielka cynically yesterday because we were away on the attack, because he would only get a yellow instead of a possible goal against.

If, earlier in a match, he would be facing 10 mins in the sin bin with his team down a man, he may let the move go, which will only benefit the game as opposed to these stop start games we see a lot of now.

Thought?
 

Crazy...it would a massive effect on the game, players would be desperate not to get booked, it's not like rugby where bookings are fairly rare in comparison
 

Crazy...it would a massive effect on the game, players would be desperate not to get booked, it's not like rugby where bookings are fairly rare in comparison

would it not provide a better spectacle in your opinion? for example, if a winger is much better than a full back, a full back will continually hack him down after he's gone past. eventually he'll get a yellow near the end of the game due to accumulation, but he would have been the victor overall because the winger hadn't been allowed to get in a goalscoring opportunity all night.
 
would it not provide a better spectacle in your opinion? for example, if a winger is much better than a full back, a full back will continually hack him down after he's gone past. eventually he'll get a yellow near the end of the game due to accumulation, but he would have been the victor overall because the winger hadn't been allowed to get in a goalscoring opportunity all night.

I see your point, but what about games with 3/4 bookings, it would be crazy...
 

I've been frustrated forever watching refs wave yellows for what, imo are just ordinary fouls.

If players are going to be sent off for 10 or 15 minutes in those circumstances it would make the game farcical.

I mean, where would you draw the line and how would you get any consistency?

No, it's bad enough now with match results being influenced by poor red card decisions ie Rodwell.
 
I've been frustrated forever watching refs wave yellows for what, imo are just ordinary fouls.

If players are going to be sent off for 10 or 15 minutes in those circumstances it would make the game farcical.

I mean, where would you draw the line and how would you get any consistency?

No, it's bad enough now with match results being influenced by poor red card decisions ie Rodwell.

Bingo
 
I see your point, but what about games with 3/4 bookings, it would be crazy...

basically the refs would have to be more leniant. I think with the punishment so severe, we would hopefully see a decline of petty yellows. however, we'd need to get rid of yellows for stupid rules like taking your shirt off or over celebrating.

i'm still not even sure why there is a rule for taking your shirt off, i thought it was something to do with baring your chest, but even players with under shirts get booked.

it would put a stop to petulant time-wasting that's for sure. these days you see people kicking the ball away on purpose just to run down a couple of seconds, whilst making it look innocent. We never get a full 90 mins of football these days, i'd like to hope that sin-binning would at least give us an extra 3/4 mins or so, as people won't want to put their team a man down by doing petulant things.

it would, you hope, clean up the disrespect players show refs when you have a steven gerrard or pepe reina running full pitch to argue about something alongside 6/7 others.

however, this is all assuming referees have the back bone to go through with it, which at the moment they don't. half of the things i stated above shouldn't really be an issue anyway, because they can sort it now, but there we go.
 
Too many grey areas would be involved.

I think we should try and take the responsibilty and pressure away from referees (techonology) if anything.

Instead of burdening them with more, which could (as said above) become a bit farcical.
 

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