PENALTIES - why do keepers dive????

[davids]

When journos report the" keeper was sent the wrong way" how is that done? Is it all in the eyes?

 

[toffeejack]

i've always thought this, but i've never made a good keeper. these days, players rarely hit into into the roof and if they get it right in the corner, even keepers diving the right way don't reach them. personally think they'd be better off waiting until the shot is taken and then dive. put more pressure on the taker as well, buut thats just me

 

[Khalekan]

Why do keepers dive??? (and this is not a pop at Robles, as all keepers do this).

Lets face it, how many penalties are placed straight down the middle?? Keepers wouldn't have to move. Have many are struck just a meter or two (and quite a few of these with little power behind them) of the keeper??? They would easily get at least a hand to them.

If a keeper became know for waiting until the player struck the ball, all the pressure would be on the player to hit a perfect penalty every time, increasing the potential for them to miss-hit, otherwise the keeper either saves it, or it goes wide. That's my theory anyway.

Thoughts?????

I am with you there, Dunc.

IMO there us not enough responsibility put on the goalkeepers in a shoot out.

There has been this attitude that the goalie is a mere spectator and if he makes a save he is a hero......but he is not expected to save one.

Just wait for the opposition to miss the target more than your guy.

Monday night showed me that goalkeepers can do a lot more than just take a punt and go early.

The shooters are just waiting for them to dive and they go the other side.

To be honest, I never really gave it much thought before as rarely are we so emotionally involved on a shoot out.

The goalkeeper should stand his ground and wait until the ball is kicked......that way the latter is caught in two minds and the likelihood of a mistake is increased.

I thought Robles had a shocker in the shoot out on Monday night.....and the Hammers goalkeeper was just as bad.

 

[degsy]

You are the keeper, billy the fish, reflexes, leaps like a tin of salmon etc etc.
Back yourself ffs

Some guy got a grant to research this, he looked at 1500 penno's

As viewed head on from behind the keeper, 80% of the directions were predictable based on the position of the none kicking foot
For the purposes of the point, assuming a right footed taker.
If the none kicking foot is pointing straight at the keeper or towards the keepers right, for 80% of pens it is going to the keepers right.

Due to the hips and the legs being joined ( no s*it sherlock ) if the left ( none kicking foot ) is pointing towards to keepers left your body will be facing that way and it is harder to kick right when you are facing left

So Keepers wait until just before he kicks it and as soon as he plants that none kicking foot - go the way it indicates, by the time he's planted the foot it's to late to change

#degsyforcoach

 

[The Cowboy]

Diving gives a keeper better chance of saving one. Think of the times they dive, but save with their legs.

Erm, never? Can't recall a pen where the keeper has dived and the taker has sent it down the middle and caught the keepers feet.

 

[EFC Si]

What ever happened to the rule saying you were allowed to move before the ball was kicked, which is ok but-

Why are they allowed to move off the line so far in some cases they meet the ball as it is coming to them some keepers are out by the six yard box!!!!!!!
Which is still a take it again pen -which is rarely, and hardly ever enforced by the officials??????

I always wonder this, it's just a rule that's simply ignored.

 

[cooperman]

Shilton years ago never used to guess. He'd try and save once he saw the direction the ball was going in.

As a result:
He was never sent the wrong way
But:
He didn't save many pens.

You're better off guessing as it gives you a head start if you get the initial direction right.

If you rely on instincts the chances are the ball is in the net before you get chance to move.

 

[roydo]

Erm, never? Can't recall a pen where the keeper has dived and the taker has sent it down the middle and caught the keepers feet.

I can. But statistically it makes some sort of weird football logic.