Paris Terrorist Attack

[Durham Toffee]

Absolutely correct. Christians and Jews had the ability to solve their family issues in court according to their religious laws for decades. It is suggest that Muslims are allowed the same right and suddenly, it seems, sharia law is taking over. Absolutely ridiculous, sensationalist, right wing verging on extremist rubbish.

Pakistan applies Sharia Law really well. I like the blood feuds and honour killings.

 

[Seanjd]

Who do these guys represent then.......in fact if they were asked what would they say...........

They represent terrorist organisations.

 

[PhilM]

But this is realpolitik. Without Saudi as a buffer, Iran would be playing havoc and holding the world to ransom. Saudi are our bezzy mates........

The West's mainstream view of Iran being some global terrorist hotbed, isn't the view you'd get if you asked someone from the Middle East.

As I mentioned earlier, it can be attributed to their on going feud with particular Arab states, mainly the more dominant Saudis.

Any potential 'oil embargo' (if such one was capable), would be to hurt Saudi interests: we'd simply be a nice piece of collateral damage.

The war in Syria boils down to a proxy war between the two nation states. Iranian support is for Assad and the Saudis support his opposition.

My Jordanian friend quickly attributed the decreasing price of Brent oil as a means of attacking certain long term interests of the Saudis.

Namely, US fracking interests and Russian support for Syria. Drop in prices will have limited effect to them, as they still sit on large reserves.

Russia on the other hand is taking a huge financial dip due to the decreasing price of Brent. Large US industries are already feeling the pinch.

Can they afford to invest the large sums required to facilitate the required infrastructure needed for fracking? With the current oil price, no.

We're so afraid of upsetting our 'bezzies' as they wield so much power, but in the long term it may cause us to make some difficult decisions.

The relaxed relations with Iran highlight this. We're trying to appease both parties at once, as we're clearly stuck in the middle of a political battle.

 

[EFCNIK]

Lol at the acceptance of shariah law courts. 'Oh muslims should have the same rights'.

If they wante that right why the [Poor language removed] did they leave the countries where they could have had shariah bliss?

All it needs is a foot in the door. Just a little bit here and there. Who cares right? We won't even really notice it for now. We're not in prison, so the meat can be halal only. Caters for everyone then. No biggy. Ban a basic freedom to draw cartoons. That's right isn't it? We don't want to make the poor muslims violent? Better for everyone then.

Etc etc.

It's a little bit here, a little bit there. Theres a reason coubtries run by islamic law are hellholes on earth. It can never be allowed to get its foot in the door. All of you with grandeurs about 'inclusivity' and 'tolerance' won't feel the betrayal of your kids because you won't be around to see the effects of your facilitation of what ha the potential to destroy every freedom weve ever had. At the moment, it's all in place. Te future is bleak. I don't blame muslims or te islamic community for their lack of action or unwillingness to deal with the estimated 25% who hold extremist values ( a huge number ) that much to be honest. I blame people like some of the people on here, who tarnish and smear and accuse and ridicule anyone who wishes to make the point that islam and a tolerant western democracy doesn't work. And then use their product, splinter far right groups, as a reason that their ideology is the 'reasoned' one.

At the end of the day you can have stories all you want about muslim kids giving out christmas cards, you can also have stories of muslims praying on young White meat or muslim girls being butchered because they looked at a non muslim man. It doesn't matter. Everyone can spin their own agenda. The fact remains that if we ever let islamic law get a foot in the door, even a little bit, we are going to leave one hell of a mess for our kids to deal with.

All in the name of tolerance. Islamic law. In the name of tolerance.

Excuse me while I puke.

 

[Clint Planet]

Lol at the acceptance of shariah law courts. 'Oh muslims should have the same rights'.

If they wante that right why the [Poor language removed] did they leave the countries where they could have had shariah bliss?

All it needs is a foot in the door. Just a little bit here and there. Who cares right? We won't even really notice it for now. We're not in prison, so the meat can be halal only. Caters for everyone then. No biggy. Ban a basic freedom to draw cartoons. That's right isn't it? We don't want to make the poor muslims violent? Better for everyone then.

Etc etc.

It's a little bit here, a little bit there. Theres a reason coubtries run by islamic law are hellholes on earth. It can never be allowed to get its foot in the door. All of you with grandeurs about 'inclusivity' and 'tolerance' won't feel the betrayal of your kids because you won't be around to see the effects of your facilitation of what ha the potential to destroy every freedom weve ever had. At the moment, it's all in place. Te future is bleak. I don't blame muslims or te islamic community for their lack of action or unwillingness to deal with the estimated 25% who hold extremist values ( a huge number ) that much to be honest. I blame people like some of the people on here, who tarnish and smear and accuse and ridicule anyone who wishes to make the point that islam and a tolerant western democracy doesn't work. And then use their product, splinter far right groups, as a reason that their ideology is the 'reasoned' one.

At the end of the day you can have stories all you want about muslim kids giving out christmas cards, you can also have stories of muslims praying on young White meat or muslim girls being butchered because they looked at a non muslim man. It doesn't matter. Everyone can spin their own agenda. The fact remains that if we ever let islamic law get a foot in the door, even a little bit, we are going to leave one hell of a mess for our kids to deal with.

All in the name of tolerance. Islamic law. In the name of tolerance.

Excuse me while I puke.

This post is so riddled with inacurracies, confused "logic," factoids, assumptions, scare-mongering and downright bile that it's difficult to know where to start. I think I'll just let it stand as a monument to the poster's twisted perspective.

 

[EFCNIK]

This post is so riddled with inacurracies, confused "logic," factoids, assumptions, scare-mongering and downright bile that it's difficult to know where to start. I think I'll just let it stand as a monument to the poster's twisted perspective.

If my disgust at the facilitation of shariah law is 'bile' then so be it.

Nothing in there is remotely untrue. And you've backed up my point about mud slinging perfectly.

Thanks for 50 years from now mate. You did a good job x

 

[Clint Planet]

If my disgust at the facilitation of shariah law is 'bile' then so be it.

Nothing in there is remotely untrue. And you've backed up my point about mud slinging perfectly.

Thanks for 50 years from now mate. You did a good job x

You used a lot of words to say precisely nothing, there. I'm almost enjoying going back to your previous post and re-reading it in a shouty, angry, poking-finger-in-chest voice, though. It still doesn't make any sense though I have to admit this is ace:

"At the end of the day you can have stories all you want about muslim kids giving out christmas cards...."

 

[The Esk]

Regrettably it is time to close this thread before matters get out of hand and people get banned.

Everyone is aware of everyone elses view and I doubt anyone will be changing their opinions.