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Sharpys top lip

Sharpys top lip

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look im not after a huge argument or nothing. just a discussion on whats going wrong.

i ask...

Is this some of the worst football you've seen us play?

For me, the answer is yes. But Why?

Is it Moyes, or the fact we have to keep selling players. Are things just stale? What's going on?. Today again, it was so flat. It was so important for 3 points. And they didnt really look up for it at time.

And we just hoof from the back, it's awful to watch. We had 2 decent passages of play all day. but all season it's been bad.

ffs......
 

Complete lack of movement from anyone, the team is so stagnent in their positions; there is no off the ball movement and its quite annoying. Its a lot of the reasoning why the centre backs hoof the ball, nobody from midfield comes short, they all turn their back on play.

Today reminded me of Everton under the Smith, it was terrible.
 
....is quite sh*te actually. Knock it long, then out to the wings, then cross for non-existent midfielder who has made a lung-bursting run into the box. It's back to relying on the wide men for creativity this season, just like the halcyon days of 2004...
 

Respect that opinion, first and foremost. I even saw Felli hoof it today which was disappointing. We are playing too much long ball football atm. FACT. However, I don't think it's as bad as some people seem to think.

Playing tippy tappy arsenal style football rarely works against ****e "get into em" teams like Wolves. If we try to do that, my opinion is that we'd be in for 90 minutes of pure frustration every week. I remember last season, early on we were playing very decent football and yet couldn't break teams down. Fulham (a) 0-0 springs to mind. Also, a few years ago, I remember us showing arsenal up football wise an still getting spanked 4-1 at home (one of the most disgraceful reds I've ever seen against arteta that night though in our defence). The irony that night was that arsenal played hoofball and tw@tted us. I've seen Arsenal literally throw away points by not being direct enough.

I'm not saying everyone wants us to try and be arsenal. It's just that to be succesful with that knid of philosophy, you need players capable of taking the piss out of your stephen hunts and jamie o'haras etc. They cost big money.

And yes, we're stale. Something needs to change. Money to invest in the summer would have done it like, but we're skint. SOMEONE BUY US FFS.
 
Dont see the live games you do Sharpy, but the position we are in as a club must affect the players. They know that DM has nothing to spend, they know the club is effectively up for sale, (as are therefore any of them if the offer is right). I dont want to start a row about BK/DM, etc etc, been done to death, but what I do see is a team that is low on confidence, relying on a front line that is pretty threadbare, but still supplied 3 players who beat Spain, (4 if Rooney was played).

Baffled basically.
 
Yeah, we're missing a creative spark. I think losing Arteta and Pienarr especially hurt us.

I don't think Rodwell is the proper player to give us that spark right now, but I think in time maybe Barkley and Drenthe could fill those roles.
 
In the first half a Mick McCarthy team with Karl Henry and Christope Berra in it outpassed us.

Says it all.
 
Players know there under pressure to get the points and it shows. Once we get a run going and gain confidence well play better stuff, the same way we have at the end of the past few seasons. Problem is weve sold arteta and pienaar, and dont have a striker that likes the ball played to feet like the yak used to. Unless we get some investment we cant afford those type of players. Maybe a more direct approach is the best tactic for the current squad?
 

Doesn't help when we start knocking it round a bit and the crowd start screaming:

'GET IT IN THE BOX FFS'

'FORWARD NOT BACK!'

'WE'RE GONNA LOSE IT HERE!

'DON'T MESS AROUND WITH IT THERE!'


There's literally mass uproar every time someone plays a backwards pass instead of charging aimlessly towards the oppo's goal.
 
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I watched the game in t'internet live feed and thought we did well. Looked like Coleman and Drenthe got at them, first half in particular and got crosses in the box reguarly. If anything we needed a target man a la Vellios to basically get on the end of it.

I do agree with the poster who says we lack movement. I've noticed that increasingly that for every time a pundit applauds us for being 'well drilled' that basically means 'runs to where they've been told to go'. They don't seem to show for it like other teams do. I refuse to believe they lack the intelligence to do so and I guess the buck stops at coaching in that respect.

Today I thought we did well, Wolves defended very well but I would say what we lack is the players to be given freedom beyond drilled positions. That makes us very easy to scout and play against. I don't believe Arteta would make much difference either-he hadn't for the past 18months so I've no reason to believe he would do now. Felli, rodders and *fingers crossed potential is reached* Barkley should be our midfield three for years to come. Drenthe +1 other and a striker being the top three.

Happy days if the shackles are released creatively...imo.
 
Its truly grim mate. I can only think that they're being sent out with the message to bypass the midfield and hit the invisible big man up front! Saha is no hold-up man, kind of worked once for the Cahill0>Saha knockdown but that wasn't exactly a 70 yeard hoof. I know we have the players to play a more expressive style of football so why does DM insist on employing this anti-football? He must honestly think it's the most effective way to win (and today I suppose in the end it was) but someone like Drenthe must be thinking WTF?
 

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