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Only Captains To Talk To Referees ?

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I think this way referees could unwillingly bond with players. Or they could easier be accused of being in some teams pocket. I dont like the idea. Ref needs to have authority and he needs to command the pitch in such a way that swarming aint good from teams point of view.
 

I think this way referees could unwillingly bond with players. Or they could easier be accused of being in some teams pocket. I dont like the idea. Ref needs to have authority and he needs to command the pitch in such a way that swarming aint good from teams point of view.
Works perfectly well in rugby where in the mainstay discipline is quite easily kept by the referee in a much sport that is much more aggressive.

However, respect for the referee in rugby is more deep rooted in the ethics of the game; it's an underpinning factor in the entire mentality.

You know you can't confront the official unless you're the captain, but even after a difficult game it's normally a respectful relationship.
 
Good idea, works well in rugby so why not.
It works well in Rugby because they have competent officials running the game. The weekly blunders from idiot referees in football would never be allowed to happen so frequently in Rugby. Some weeks i honestly question whether half the referees in the game understand the rules!
 
I don't think theres an awful lot of respect amongst football players for the referees authority as opposed to Rugby players. Young talented kids coming through have been cosseted and handled with care by clubs let alone their families...and the word "No" or any other pull-up hardly uttered towards them behaviour-wise. There are always exceptions of course and Im not tarring them with the same brush but its generally true. The big I am...carried round etc. Referees have allowed players to swear at them face to face practically without recourse...look at Rooney in the past. It'll be hard to put that genie back in the bottle when team skippers...the very people given the task of liaising with the ref... are sometimes the worst offenders.

totally agree, not backing up any footballer here, but honestly, what goes through these refs minds these days is utterly boggling to me. I'm a calm well grounded guy who doesn't like confrontation, but honestly, if i got the abuse these refs get, i would lose my sh*t and send them all off if they started surrounding me. It probably wouldn't happen straight away, but it would happen eventually and i'm so astonished that i've never seen that happen so far in the premier league. They have all the power, they have the cards, the rules are in their hands, i honestly don't understand why they accept a handful of players surrounding them and shouting in their face.

Honestly, a quick "i'm not standing for this, you're booked, you're booked, you're booked and don't try and influence me again!". That is all it takes, it's not a complex procedure. Refs are partly to blame for this, of course. I don't see rugby union refs being bullied in the same way, they just tell players to go away, and they are a lot bigger and more intimidating than footballers.
 

Interesting piece in The Times...pity the issue was swerved when Carragher and Gerrard were the chief protagonists....when Elleray was actually on the pitch.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/plan-to-restrict-referee-contact-v6xcc2bsw
Only captains will be allowed to talk with referees
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter
March 3 2017, 12:01am, The Times
Football’s lawmakers are considering introducing a rule that only the captain can talk to the referee after “major” incidents in an effort to stop players surrounding match officials.

The annual International FA Board (Ifab) meeting at Wembley today will hear proposals to enhance the role of the captain as part of moves to improve behaviour and increase respect for referees.

Rugby union already operates a system in which the captain speaks to the referee on behalf of the team.
David Elleray, the former referee who is now Ifab technical director, told the BBC: “We’re going to be agreeing a major strategy focus on player behaviour. We want to look at whether we can enhance the role and the responsibility of the captain to take some degree of responsibility for the behaviour of his or her players.


“Can we say for a major incident [only] the captain may be able to talk to the referee. If that stops six players from each team going to talk to the referee that will enhance respect and improve respect for the game.
“We want to work with the captains and this is the message we get across the world. Captains are people that respond positively to help.


“We see, in other sports, the captain does have a greater responsibility. If you look at cricket, the captain of the English team is almost more important than the coach. We wouldn’t want to move in that direction but certainly we believe the captain could play a much stronger role.”

Elleray tried to play down the influence of a rugby-style system, suggesting the idea that it was coming from another sport might deter those who make football’s laws.

“I don’t think we have very clear ideas to do what rugby does,” Elleray said. “Sometimes, if we say what rugby does, football immediately says, ‘No, well don’t do it.’ I think everybody agrees the captain could play a better role in the image of the game and the behaviour of players in his or her team.”

The strategy will also look at ways at cracking down on time-wasting, which is already an offence that carries a caution but is still a regular occurrence.


It is expected that the Ifab — which is made up of members from the four British football associations and Fifa, and manage the Laws of the Game — will agree on a decision in principle today and then launch a wide consultation process across all areas of the game.

It is also likely that the FA will apply to Ifab for permission to trial video technology in one of its competitions next season, perhaps the Community Shield, but it is unlikely to feature in the Premier League.
About time too. Clueless why this has not been done years ago.
 
Then we should get a captain in who can open his mouth.

If Coleman isn't captain next season then something is out of whack.
 

Rugby union has more problems with rules and regulations than any sport I can think of - inconsistent, excessively complex and open to interpretation, which massively over-powers the role of the ref [tbf this is partly caused by the sport turning professional which completely changed the game]. Teams will actually adapt their game plan according to who is refereeing - a completely risible situation. But it's OK because the captain calls the ref Sir :D
And we're proposing to take a leaf out of their officiating book? Please.

Wouldn't say football has a particular problem with maintaining order on the pitch anyhow. Roy Keane snarled at a ref once, in 1997, so armchair rugby fans think the whole system is broken.
 
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