Obesity is a disability?

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mobility scooters are the things that piss me off the most though.

i understand people can become obese because they're disabled etc. i have no qualms with that.

the people who are obese because they're just purely lazy and can't be bothered to exercise and then get labelled alongside the above as also disabled - i just find it all wrong tbh. They can then hire a mobility scooter to drive themselves around a city centre because they're "disabled" when in reality they really can't be bothered to do something that is good for them and actually walk. these things take up a lot of space and will bloody hurt if they reverse over a child's foot.

i've got to be honest, i don't see many advantages of them over wheelchairs. there's a guy in work who has one, when he possibly doesn't need it. he's always messing around on it, getting in people's way, reversing so it can make the beep noises etc. i saw it abandoned last week and he was over the other side of the room standing up chatting to someone. he's not obese i must add, he has always had crutches, but is perfectly able to walk with them all day, but having this easier alternative of getting around possibly will turn him obese in the future because he's not getting the exercise he used to.

i can sort of agree with what brennan's saying. Obviously it's hard if your a big kid from a young age and it probably is the fault of the parent, but so many people can overcome that depression and lose the weight. there's a few guys who were in school with me and were massive, but now i see them and they've totally transformed themselves, these were guys who were bullied and depressed.

of course, everyone's different.

i just think there's two different meanings of obesity and i do think there are some instances where it shouldn't be labelled as a disability and that the personnel should not be given the same benefits, so to speak as others who can't really control it.


I think you've touched on the key issue there, mate: Just because plenty of people are obese, it doesn't mean that they're all the same. Some people are awful, lazy bastards. Others are suffering with various conditions.

But as others have said, how do you differentiate? Personally I'd always rather support too many people than too few, if you know what I mean. The thought of some lazy ted on a mobility scooter winds me up, but not as much as the thought of an overweight, depressed child killing themselves due to bullying and self-esteem issues (something I remember happening when I was younger).

It just irks me seeing people surmise the issue to "the fat bastards just need to go for a jog". It is not that simple and that kind of mentality is what leaves people in need in a situation where they don't get the help they need.
 

How to really PC this up....

...I never saw a fatty on film from Auschwitz. (Harsh, undoubtably, but some facts are harsh.)

Is early death, dependance and deprevation of liberty the crop of consumerism whence sewn?
 
I think you've touched on the key issue there, mate: Just because plenty of people are obese, it doesn't mean that they're all the same. Some people are awful, lazy bastards. Others are suffering with various conditions.

But as others have said, how do you differentiate? Personally I'd always rather support too many people than too few, if you know what I mean. The thought of some lazy ted on a mobility scooter winds me up, but not as much as the thought of an overweight, depressed child killing themselves due to bullying and self-esteem issues (something I remember happening when I was younger).

It just irks me seeing people surmise the issue to "the fat bastards just need to go for a jog". It is not that simple and that kind of mentality is what leaves people in need in a situation where they don't get the help they need.

Does it come from the top down though? "The chit rolls down the hill"

What issue can fool the masses today, 'bread and circuses' if ever an example.

If you are on the con, point out someone elses to distract attention from your own. Thieves have always worked in such a manner.

To sell the turfing up of the pish takers the 'authorities' have made the odd example of putting the genuine through the wringer. It's always been about credibility, its always been about why 'we the tories' expect more to be grateful for less. No rich person stays rich giving their wealth away.

There are no classes, no racism, no right or wrong, there is only 'have' and 'have not'.

Living under a shadow of planned failure will cast a huge majority into despair. Those that give in and turn to food have not taken on the first hurdle. There are thousands of subsequent hurdles. Modern life teaches that trying for a lifetime can still lead to fukk all. Is it any wonder some call it a day before its began? When the system is so skewed and corrupted that only Blair and Beckhams kids get a shot at the types of opportunity millions never get a sniff at.

Those that have, keep their wealth in the circles that they know, keep down the paupers as they only dilute out wealth and power. Turn to food and or not trying because contemplating the truth of life is overwhelming? Can't blame you. It's why people turn to drink, drugs, sex, and in some cases criminality.

"ding dong the witch is dead" and how people sang and danced. Her minions and the minions of her controllers will grind your bones into the flour of their bread and laugh.

(I can't work a 'milk of human kindness' reference in, but I'd have liked to). It's time to bury the tories, and those that want to be them.
 
Hmm I suppose technically if you're not able to function because you're obese then you are disabled. But something about this bugs me, as a disability for me is something which has happened to you which is out of your control.

I won't take lack of education as an excuse really, it's an incredibly simple formula, eat more than you burn off = get fat. If you can't work that out then natural selection should win this battle.

We seem to live in a culture at the minute where it's everyone but the person in questions fault. I got fat because of x, y or z. No, you got fat because you eat 4 bars of XL dairy milk every morning, it's nobody's fault but your own. Everyone goes through hard times, it's how you choose to deal with them.

And to compare it to a sportsman getting an injury for example, doesn't even bear comparison. The sportsman was doing something healthy. Sport. The obese person on the other hand is disabled because its self inflicted.

If I'm ever obese in the future there's only one person ill blame, because there's quite simply only one person to blame. I won't expect any sympathy either, your own weight is your responsibility, proper medical cases withstanding.
Theyve decided its depression, not greediness or laziness..
 
We seem to live in a culture at the minute where it's everyone but the person in questions fault.



Aye, I know exactly what you mean. The problem with these sweeping employment rulings is that they rarely benefit anyone but the few chumps who are willing to go the extra mile to wilfully exploit them. I'm sure most fat/obese people don't perceive their weight as a disability and operate in their jobs and daily lives accordingly, but there are career victims out there (we of all people know) who entrench themselves in workplaces, become absolute liabilities and can't be removed because of rulings like these, and they know it.
 
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Yes and no.

For people with large muscle mass, low body fat, it would not be accurate to use it to define obesity. That would not describe most people and why the diagnosis of obesity, as it is a medical condition, should come from a medical professional.

I had an ex that ran into this problem in the military as he had a high BMI. He was 5'10" and weighed 205 with 6% body fat.
I believe they now use BMI and body fat.
Aye. The All Blacks, all incredible athletes at the peak of their fitness are all classed as highly obese according to BMI.
 
I think it's a disability but 9/10 it's down to lifestyle choices, if your obese then there's never been a better time to find out why you're fat and what you can do to reverse it with the info online and the fact nutritional advice is on virtually every food product, fatties running out of excuses!
 
I think it's a disability but 9/10 it's down to lifestyle choices, if your obese then there's never been a better time to find out why you're fat and what you can do to reverse it with the info online and the fact nutritional advice is on virtually every food product, fatties running out of excuses!

Next you'll be telling me that people will be getting a monthly disability allowance.
 

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