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billycopper said:
Really?! He's one of Fergie's occasional bad mistakes like De Laet, Bellion, Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson.
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when I saw him play, he had a lot of skill, pace, dribbling skill, can cross. can't say I've heard anything bad about him or him pulling off howlers like a young ronaldo or nani have done in the past ....

he just dropped off the radar and there's no way him getting into that united team in the next 4 years.

and he's still young and raw, no better or worse than coleman to be fair. maybe not united class, but someone who could be moulded into a very tricky winger IMO

would've been a good buy for us...especially over Vic
 
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kenada_blue said:
when I saw him play, he had a lot of skill, pace, dribbling skill, can cross. can't say I've heard anything bad about him or him pulling off howlers like a young ronaldo or nani have done in the past ....

he just dropped off the radar and there's no way him getting into that united team in the next 4 years.

and he's still young and raw, no bettet or worse than coleman to be fair. maybe not united class, but someone who could be moulded into a very tricky winger IMO

would've been a good buy for us...especially over Vic
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To be fair, he's a better winger than Coleman. But that is normal, seeing as ones 'natural' position is winger, and the others is right back.
 

kenada_blue said:
when I saw him play, he had a lot of skill, pace, dribbling skill, can cross. can't say I've heard anything bad about him or him pulling off howlers like a young ronaldo or nani have done in the past ....

he just dropped off the radar and there's no way him getting into that united team in the next 4 years.

and he's still young and raw, no bettet or worse than coleman to be fair. maybe not united class, but someone who could be moulded into a very tricky winger IMO

would've been a good buy for us...especially over Vic
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Whenever I've seen him play I thought he ran round in circles and that he was ineffective. I would have had to seriously question how much use he would have been to us even as a loan or free transfer. I'd be surprised if he plays ahead of Gutierrez, Ben Arfa or Barton.
 
DualityNSNO said:
To be fair, he's a better winger than Coleman. But that is normal, seeing as ones 'natural' position is winger, and the others is right back.
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But I think Coleman is a really effective winger for us. He was a massive threat against Villareal, very ticky...and if he keeps up that in the premiership rather than having the 1 season syndrome and being sussed out, I'd prefer him as a right winger.

Obertan has that rawness but because he's a winger already has an idea of what the role involves...They're both still learning.

£3mill is a good buy. He'll go backwards like everyone does at Newcastle though...but he would've been pretty effective for us.
 
billycopper said:
Whenever I've seen him play I thought he ran round in circles and that he was ineffective. I would have had to seriously question how much use he would have been to us even as a loan or free transfer. I'd be surprised if he plays ahead of Gutierrez, Ben Arfa or Barton.
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But so did Ronaldo and Nani. Not saying he'd be on par with them, but he's got that flair.

Dont know why Fergie would get rid, he's rarely wrong, but I wonder what Neville thought of him? My United mate didnt mind him, thought he had potential. Maybe was just the wrong time for him.

I think he'll play over Gutierrez on the wing...and you dont know what's gonna happen with Barton. They do need to replace Nolan so a big of shifting around may be needed for them.
 
kenada_blue said:
But so did Ronaldo and Nani. Not saying he'd be on par with them, but he's got that flair.

Dont know why Fergie would get rid, he's rarely wrong, but I wonder what Neville thought of him? My United mate didnt mind him, thought he had potential. Maybe was just the wrong time for him.

I think he'll play over Gutierrez on the wing...and you dont know what's gonna happen with Barton. They do need to replace Nolan so a big of shifting around may be needed for them.
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I don't think that Ashley likes parting with his money, so Pardew must have put a case forward for signing him. I'd atleast want to have a look at him on loan first before I put any money up. From what I've seen of him, defenders won't mind playing against him. He seems quite easy to get the better of. And I think he's held in as low regard as Bebe. Just one of Fergie's abberations.
 

kenada_blue said:
But I think Coleman is a really effective winger for us. He was a massive threat against Villareal, very ticky...and if he keeps up that in the premiership rather than having the 1 season syndrome and being sussed out, I'd prefer him as a right winger.

Obertan has that rawness but because he's a winger already has an idea of what the role involves...They're both still learning.

£3mill is a good buy. He'll go backwards like everyone does at Newcastle though...but he would've been pretty effective for us.
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He is mate, he has that natural flair and is probably the only young player (except Barkley now; "like a new signing" etc.) in the club at the moment who actually knows how to take on an opponent and beat him. Really hope he's not a One Season Wonder.

And at 3m Obertan is a good buy, as it's money next to nothing. Where were we again ffs...
Too bad he went to Newcastle though.
 
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