been there had that done to us as a team. On both occasions they were kicking everything above grass level, now this is not what we as a team were about, mostly they were too nice to start trouble ,it's not in their nature to go from zero to psycho, you hope that the reff would control it, but we had one guy, who while being an all around nice guy, give you his last quid, come round and help you paint your wall etc etc, but in a certain light he had the silent killer look, not big, not small, mr average, but it was there in the eyes if you knew the look... he gripped one, we all gathered behind him to back him up and he asked him did he want to keep on playing like that or not and just 'looked' at him, the penny dropped or the chilean peso or the serbian ( no names no pack drill ) what ever, sweetness and light ensued... score one for the silent psycho... every team needs one... Besic? Keane