New Everton Stadium Discussion

[mrb85]

The new ferry terminal is the worst.

Totally agree. And that's the first sight cruise visitors get of central Liverpool.

 

[nsno-chris]

Why is this? Is it to do with the sun getting in ppl's (keeper's) eyes? Would be a lot easier to do E-W! Was having a look at the stadiums in London and they all seem to be just off N-S (true N-S maybe?).



You know you will be able to choose whether to go in that area or not right??

Haha like that’ll make a difference. They’ll go in just to moan

 

[RobSpurs]

Why is this? Is it to do with the sun getting in ppl's (keeper's) eyes? Would be a lot easier to do E-W! Was having a look at the stadiums in London and they all seem to be just off N-S (true N-S maybe?).

Here ya go...

New Everton Stadium Discussion

An ability to increase capacity at some future date in my opinion is vital. This stadium will be a very long term project and how can anybody predict what capacity will be needed in twenty, thirty or forty years time.

www.grandoldteam.com

There's zero indication from the plans seen so far that Meis is going to ignore this. Given that N-S is recommended, and Meis is adhering to best practice (as you'd expect a stadium architect to), the question of what can be squeezed into the site in that direction becomes important. It's Meis' job to make sure any trade-offs between capacity/facilities are as small as possible.

All speculation, but there's the reasons for it anyway. I hope the timelines are still alright and final plans are revealed in the Summer. At the moment this thread's going round in circles a bit.

 

[GwladysBlue]

No the clubs advisors are letting Historic England, English Heritage & UNESCO drive this. Look how long anything takes. Over 5 months since last public consultation & we have no definitive date for 2nd consultation. No renders because we are scared of anybody from the 3 bodi s taking exception to them. It’s a joke.

It’s what happens when we have no-marks running the project.

 

[MickA]

Sunderland installing a Leitch tribute.....
Roker End hoardings

I noticed when Tottenham score all the electronic ads in the upper tiers change to display 'goal'. Be great if at BMD we displayed the latticework after goals, keep the tradition up of players celebrating with Leitch's work in the background.

 

[GwladysPhil]

Sunderland installing a Leitch tribute.....
Roker End hoardings

I noticed when Tottenham score all the electronic ads in the upper tiers change to display 'goal'. Be great if at BMD we displayed the latticework after goals, keep the tradition up of players celebrating with Leitch's work in the background.

I like that idea.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Sunderland installing a Leitch tribute.....
Roker End hoardings

I noticed when Tottenham score all the electronic ads in the upper tiers change to display 'goal'. Be great if at BMD we displayed the latticework after goals, keep the tradition up of players celebrating with Leitch's work in the background.

I posted something similar a while back:
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/new-stadium-discussion.66451/post-4977166

 

[Paulie]

No the clubs advisors are letting Historic England, English Heritage & UNESCO drive this. Look how long anything takes. Over 5 months since last public consultation & we have no definitive date for 2nd consultation. No renders because we are scared of anybody from the 3 bodi s taking exception to them. It’s a joke.

I remember an episode of Grand Designs. This couple bought a dilapidated castle. Floors of it being rubble as the roof caved in and part of the stonework. As they went through the laborious process of planning permission from English Heritage they decided to clear the rubble to save time. Not long after they finished the rubble, they finally received the go ahead from EH with lots of amendments of course. Not long after that though, an inside wall collapsed as the rubble was keeping it up and they had to reapply as there were changes to the building. Can be very anti-productive these people.

 

[GwladysPhil]

I remember an episode of Grand Designs. This couple bought a dilapidated castle. Floors of it being rubble as the roof caved in and part of the stonework. As they went through the laborious process of planning permission from English Heritage they decided to clear the rubble to save time. Not long after they finished the rubble, they finally received the go ahead from EH with lots of amendments of course. Not long after that though, an inside wall collapsed as the rubble was keeping it up and they had to reapply as there were changes to the building. Can be very anti-productive these people.

This isn't a building or castle thought it's a brownfield abandoned land so they can't be that difficult. Filling in the dock might be touchy but they've filled in others for a lot less. The wall will be retained with a few entrances created.

 

[Jacko93]

This isn't a building or castle thought it's a brownfield abandoned land so they can't be that difficult. Filling in the dock might be touchy but they've filled in others for a lot less. The wall will be retained with a few entrances created.

Its not about just the boundary wall though, it's also about maintaining the dock structure, as in the water retention walls. A precedent has been set for wall interventions recently at the Princes dock, so that any in the boundary wall will be much easier to pass.

 

[Paulie]

This isn't a building or castle thought it's a brownfield abandoned land so they can't be that difficult. Filling in the dock might be touchy but they've filled in others for a lot less. The wall will be retained with a few entrances created.

I hope so. That's just an example of how hard they can be and they've been tough on Liverpool in the past. They seem to be inconcistent imo.

 

[GwladysPhil]

I hope so. That's just an example of how hard they can be and they've been tough on Liverpool in the past. They seem to be inconcistent imo.

Sounds like the diving panel at the FA.

 

[sbbefc]

Every planning application is assessed on its own merits. Ultimately there will be harm identified by this development. It's the clubs job to make a strong case that any harm caused will be out weighed by the public benefits of the proposal. The regeneration of north Liverpool, employment, jobs etc will easily get this project over the line.

 

[CouchPotato]

The regeneration of north Liverpool, employment, jobs etc will easily get this project over the line.

We had to build a stand at our local Sunday league ground. A stand that seats, 460 people. Not a big one mind you. It was more than just employment and jobs. We had to prove that we werent harming any fauna along the way, and all relocations regarding trees and bushes have to be done within a 50m radius of the stand itself. And not to mention, the financial side of it.

I wish it was that easy. But it isnt. There are atleast a 1000 health and safety code to be aware of. And sustained employability shown. If it is not, then any council will plainly reject it.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Didn't Liverpool ensure the council bought the nearby houses to allow for Anfield to be redeveloped?

Was the reason we didn't do that because of the school and church?

Can fully understand that to be honest. And wouldn't want to see hundreds of people kicked out for the sake of us extending Goodison over building a completely new gaff.

Just something I was thinking about!