New Everton Stadium Discussion

[davek]

Well he is out the way now so I can't see any problems

He may be exonerated, in which case his close collaboration with Elstone would be continued. If he isn;'t then this is a blow to the process and an embarrassment.

I dont blame the club in any way shape or form btw. Anderson has hired the man and he has brought him into contact with the club.

 

[nsno-chris]

He was hired to 'build stronger links with business and enterprise to attract investment and new jobs'.

His own words.

The job of any CEO, but you're getting yourself tangled up with what I've already explained. The CEO cannot pull a deal that has been ratified by cabinet, he's there to ensure those are seen through.

 

[davek]

The job of any CEO, but you're getting yourself tangled up with what I've already explained. The CEO cannot pull a deal that has been ratified by cabinet, he's there to ensure those are seen through.

...so why hasn't the whole cabinet of Lancs Council been pulled in up there?

Of course exec officers have more say and have latitude in specialist business procurement decisions...that's why they get paid indecent amounts of cash.

 

[nsno-chris]

...so why hasn't the whole cabinet of Lancs Council been pulled in up there?

Of course exec officers have more say and have latitude in specialist business procurement decisions...that's why they get paid indecent amounts of cash.

Without knowing the exact details I'd imagine it would be the chair of the committee that approved it, and possibly those who had a direct contact with the lead officer who proposed the report.

And on your second point; councillors and cabinet members have no say in procurement matters.

The setup of the venture was so bad at LCC that they brought in a team of barristers to try and break the deal, they couldn't.

Fitzgerald is not the main person they're after

 

[davek]

Without knowing the exact details I'd imagine it would be the chair of the committee that approved it, and possibly those who had a direct contact with the lead officer who proposed the report.

And on your second point; councillors and cabinet members have no say in procurement matters.

The setup of the venture was so bad at LCC that they brought in a team of barristers to try and break the deal, they couldn't.

Fitzgerald is not the main person they're after

There'll be blowback for the BMD scheme from this.

 

[nsno-chris]

There'll be blowback for the BMD scheme from this.

There won't, not one bit.

LCC have done there bit, the deal is signed. Stop praying for it to fail

 

[KUEFC09U2]

There won't, not one bit.

LCC have done there bit, the deal is signed. Stop praying for it to fail

Assuming you are replying to davek here.......

 

[Brisan123]

What's this got to do with Everton bud ?

All 4 men once watched 15 mins of an Everton game on Kodi.
That's enough evidence for Dave to be convinced the deal is crooked

 

[vintage-toffees]

It's like some on here people want this to fall through don't understand why

 

[Brisan123]

It's like some on here people want this to fall through don't understand why

And all because our Persian overlord took a dislike to the trend of wearing brown shoes with every colour of suit.
He's more of a black patent leather shoe with every suit type of man seemingly

 

[Jacko93]

It's like some on here people want this to fall through don't understand why

I think with some people there is a suffering similar to that of Stockholm syndrome. Some people have become so comfortable with their position and environment that they feel that their view of the world and the importance of it will wane proportionate to change.

These things happen during times of house moves or office moves. People focus on the negatives as they see change as an afront to their comfort level rather than an opportunity. "But the school near the new house isn't as good", "I won't get a window seat in the new office", "It'll take me longer to get in", "The coffee wont taste the same". Truth is there is very little basis to their arguments, it is driven from fear of change. You can often see their argument change and shift dependent on the situation, as the focus is not on ensuring change happens smoothly, but rather that nothing changes at all.

 

[royalblue66]

I think with some people there is a suffering similar to that of Stockholm syndrome. Some people have become so comfortable with their position and environment that they feel that their view of the world and the importance of it will wane proportionate to change.

These things happen during times of house moves or office moves. People focus on the negatives as they see change as an afront to their comfort level rather than an opportunity. "But the school near the new house isn't as good", "I won't get a window seat in the new office", "It'll take me longer to get in", "The coffee wont taste the same". Truth is there is very little basis to their arguments, it is driven from fear of change. You can often see their argument change and shift dependent on the situation, as the focus is not on ensuring change happens smoothly, but rather that nothing changes at all.

So Davek is running scared ?

 

[Brisan123]

So Davek is running scared ?

Running angry I'd say

 

[TyphooToffee]

Speculation that it stinks?

Nope, I'm there all the time, you can hardly smell it

Hows that speculation

Does anyone think the club would be considered building the ground there if it was a genuine problem? In any case, we've put up with the smell wafting across Stanley Park for long enough.

 

[ultra]

I think with some people there is a suffering similar to that of Stockholm syndrome. Some people have become so comfortable with their position and environment that they feel that their view of the world and the importance of it will wane proportionate to change.

These things happen during times of house moves or office moves. People focus on the negatives as they see change as an afront to their comfort level rather than an opportunity. "But the school near the new house isn't as good", "I won't get a window seat in the new office", "It'll take me longer to get in", "The coffee wont taste the same". Truth is there is very little basis to their arguments, it is driven from fear of change. You can often see their argument change and shift dependent on the situation, as the focus is not on ensuring change happens smoothly, but rather that nothing changes at all.

Very true, mate: this used to be my favourite thread, with informed contributions from yourself and one or two others.