New proposed offside rule

[JLW]

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[Zatara]

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Defenders would need eyes in the back of their heads...

Forwards could stand behind them with a limb hanging over them lol

 

[JLW]

Defenders would need eyes in the back of their heads...

Forwards could stand behind them with a limb hanging over them lol

Would be very difficult to defend against although I’m all for it.

 

[arch stanton]

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you'd still have the same problem with the drawing of lines on a pitch and having to choose at which point in time to freeze the frame. If you have to get the lines out, the attacker is level and onside. No way should WBA's goal have been ruled out last night, the game is in danger of killing itself.

 

[JLW]

you'd still have the same problem with the drawing of lines on a pitch and having to choose at which point in time to freeze the frame. If you have to get the lines out, the attacker is level and onside. No way should WBA's goal have been ruled out last night, the game is in danger of killing itself.

For me it should favour the attacker as which this does. You’re right though it just flips the argument into what part of the body is onside that he can score with.

 

[arch stanton]

For me it should favour the attacker as which this does. You’re right though it just flips the argument into what part of the body is onside that he can score with.

it doesn't solve the problem, it just gives an attacker an extra metre or two to play with.

 

[trueblue84]

you'd still have the same problem with the drawing of lines on a pitch and having to choose at which point in time to freeze the frame. If you have to get the lines out, the attacker is level and onside. No way should WBA's goal have been ruled out last night, the game is in danger of killing itself.

I disagree. It is simple... If any part of you is beyond the defender, you are offside. If they change it to what Wenger is proposing, you'll end up with basketball scores. The onus is on the defender, rather than the attacker timing his run, which isn't fair.

 

[Ring master]

Yeah said this new offside earlier, without it been said what the actual wenger new thing was, this to me may cause even more confusion,
the one v us last night with foot over is all it should be to be called offside, not if your arm or body is leaning over the line and that is classed as offside

 

[wandyr79]

you'd still have the same problem with the drawing of lines on a pitch and having to choose at which point in time to freeze the frame. If you have to get the lines out, the attacker is level and onside. No way should WBA's goal have been ruled out last night, the game is in danger of killing itself.

By the technicality of the rules he was offside. To be honest, the liner put up his flag so it would have been a contentious decision if VAR was not around, to just about prove him right. Very harsh on the lad, who was superb throughout the game.

However, using common sense and if VAR was not here and the linesman kept his flag down nobody would have complained about a big toe offside, very hard for a liner to see that in real time.

I remember asking a liner (in the non-league) and he said that each official had their own interpretation, whether it was a scoring part of the body offside or it had to be clear daylight between the attacker and defender.

As long as they make a decision and stick with it then all the players know where they stand, unlike the ridiculous 'phases of play' rule.

 

[arch stanton]

I disagree. It is simple... If any part of you is beyond the defender, you are offside. If they change it to what Wenger is proposing, you'll end up with basketball scores. The onus is on the defender, rather than the attacker timing his run, which isn't fair.

Thanks for that mate, I didn't know what the offside rule was until you kindly pointed that out. I wasn't advocating either rule, I was commenting that the same issue will be the underlying flaw to both methods, getting lines drawn on the pitch for very marginal decisions is the problem that isn't solved with this suggestion.

 

[TheBigIguana]

It would do the exact opposite of what they intend it to do

 

[Magus]

For me it should favour the attacker as which this does. You’re right though it just flips the argument into what part of the body is onside that he can score with.

Surely the attacker is already favoured simply by virtue of running towards the goal. I think the whole point of the offside rule is to temper that advantage, but trying to get it down to millimetres is just counter-productive. We should just go back to clear daylight between the defender and attacker.

 

[Ring master]

WENGER'S RADICAL RULE CHANGES​

Throw-ins - Teams should be able to kick the ball back into play instead of throwing it back in, if they are inside their own half.

Offside - An attacker would not be offside if any part of their body with which they are allowed to score, such as a foot, head or shoulder, is in line with the penultimate defender.

Corners - Kicks which curve out of play and then back in again should be permitted.

Free-kicks - Players should be able to touch the ball to themselves to restart play, not be forced to pass to a team-mate.

 

[trueblue84]

Thanks for that mate, I didn't know what the offside rule was until you kindly pointed that out. I wasn't advocating either rule, I was commenting that the same issue will be the underlying flaw to both methods, getting lines drawn on the pitch for very marginal decisions is the problem that isn't solved with this suggestion.

Where the lines are drawn will always be contentious, although I've not seen a single VAR decision called out for when the ball was classed as "played". The point I was making is that once any part of a player is beyond the defender, they have an advantage. That is why it should remain offside.

What Wenger is proposing is a massive advantage to the attacker. To allow a player to be a whole body ahead of the defender, running in that direction while the defender has to turn would kill the game as defenders would go deep and just hoof it over the top on the counter.

 

[JLW]

WENGER'S RADICAL RULE CHANGES​

Throw-ins - Teams should be able to kick the ball back into play instead of throwing it back in, if they are inside their own half.

Offside - An attacker would not be offside if any part of their body with which they are allowed to score, such as a foot, head or shoulder, is in line with the penultimate defender.

Corners - Kicks which curve out of play and then back in again should be permitted.

Free-kicks - Players should be able to touch the ball to themselves to restart play, not be forced to pass to a team-mate.

A throw in inside your own half could be hoofed into the opposing penalty area! Allardyce likes this