New Jamie Bulger film controversy

[longers]

Been nominated for an Oscar but the creators are getting criticised by some for not asking the family if it was ok before hand, there is now a petition with 100,000 signatures trying to disqualify it from the running.

There is more info about the situation here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46995039

What are people’s thoughts on this ? I know it’s a sensitive subject but if film makers now have to ask for permission every time they make a film about a real life crime it’s going to get pretty ridiculous. Bulgers mother seems to think family members of victims should be able to have input and help dictate how a film and it’s subjects are portrayed, is this correct or is it ruining creative freedom of the directors ?

 

[carlos21]

Been nominated for an Oscar but the creators are getting criticised by some for not asking the family if it was ok before hand, there is now a petition with 100,000 signatures trying to disqualify it from the running.

There is more info about the situation here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46995039

What are people’s thoughts on this ? I know it’s a sensitive subject but if film makers now have to ask for permission every time they make a film about a real life crime it’s going to get pretty ridiculous. Bulgers mother seems to think family members of victims should be able to have input and help dictate how a film and it’s subjects are portrayed, is this correct or is it ruining creative freedom of the directors ?

She has done an excellent job like.

 

[carlos21]

Been nominated for an Oscar but the creators are getting criticised by some for not asking the family if it was ok before hand, there is now a petition with 100,000 signatures trying to disqualify it from the running.

There is more info about the situation here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46995039

What are people’s thoughts on this ? I know it’s a sensitive subject but if film makers now have to ask for permission every time they make a film about a real life crime it’s going to get pretty ridiculous. Bulgers mother seems to think family members of victims should be able to have input and help dictate how a film and it’s subjects are portrayed, is this correct or is it ruining creative freedom of the directors ?

I hope it wins something like.

 

[efcjames]

Should have been consulted first, 100 percent.

 

[Seathestars]

Been nominated for an Oscar but the creators are getting criticised by some for not asking the family if it was ok before hand, there is now a petition with 100,000 signatures trying to disqualify it from the running.

There is more info about the situation here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46995039

What are people’s thoughts on this ? I know it’s a sensitive subject but if film makers now have to ask for permission every time they make a film about a real life crime it’s going to get pretty ridiculous. Bulgers mother seems to think family members of victims should be able to have input and help dictate how a film and it’s subjects are portrayed, is this correct or is it ruining creative freedom of the directors ?

If it was your son murdered how would you feel, there’s your answer.

I think they should have spoken to her, out of common decency if nothing else.

 

[carlos21]

If it was your son murdered how would you feel, there’s your answer.

I think they should have spoken to her, out of common decency if nothing else.

I totally agree with what you are saying there mate.

 

[Vegas Toffee Girl]

The producer should have spoken to the family to inform them they were going to make the film. Does the producer need their permission? No. They should have told them about the movie long before now.

 

[carlos21]

The producer should have spoken to the family to inform them they were going to make the film. Does the producer need their permission? No. They should have told them about the movie long before now.

Yes you are right with saying that.

 

[longers]

If it was your son murdered how would you feel, there’s your answer.

I think they should have spoken to her, out of common decency if nothing else.

Annoyed but are you saying that every film about a real life crime should require permission from all involved before it’s given the ok to be made ? and that the families should also be allowed to have creative input on how the story is told and how the characters etc are portrayed ? Because I don’t agree with that at all.

 

[maccavennie]

Annoyed but are you saying that every film about a real life crime should require permission from all involved before it’s given the ok to be made ? and that the families should also be allowed to have creative input on how the story is told and how the characters etc are portrayed ? Because I don’t agree with that at all.

I think you'd feel more than annoyed tbh mate

And yes I think something as sensitive as this they should have been informed. That film they are having to relive some horrible memories, the early hours/days/weeks/months of complete anguish

I think if we are talking should the family be given creative output, well her creative output would be to kick the person/people who agreed to producing this film in the ballsack and make it go away.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Should be a time rule in place that they can't make a film without the family's permission. Every time I hear about this case it makes me sick to my stomach, so what must that be like for close relatives?

 

[Jacob]

Been nominated for an Oscar but the creators are getting criticised by some for not asking the family if it was ok before hand, there is now a petition with 100,000 signatures trying to disqualify it from the running.

There is more info about the situation here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46995039

What are people’s thoughts on this ? I know it’s a sensitive subject but if film makers now have to ask for permission every time they make a film about a real life crime it’s going to get pretty ridiculous. Bulgers mother seems to think family members of victims should be able to have input and help dictate how a film and it’s subjects are portrayed, is this correct or is it ruining creative freedom of the directors ?

I don't think there can be "creative freedom" in depicting an angle of a factual murder investigation....its not a drama. The premise of the film is supposedly to establish in some way why Thompson and Venables did it. I don't know if this young director is aware that this psychological angle regarding them has been well covered before on television and in print so its not new ground were talking about here apart, of course, from this being a cinema short. The crime was 25 years ago so not surprisingly has been repetitively covered given that time scale. Im sure Denise, James Bulger's long suffering Mum should not be subject to old ground and heartbreak being rotivated again... moreso when she wasn't even given the courtesy of being informed let alone consulted. I saw ex - Det.Supt Albert Kirby, the Senior Investigating Officer on the case interviewed on tv during the week and he was aghast that the family werent even told the film was being made. The Murder Team, he added, were commended after the case for their sensitivity and approach to interviewing the two boys and he said that the film misrepresented this and, moreover, that the credits on the film included Merseyside Police who actually had no input to it. I saw a clip of it and, as a more trivial crib, its also gone down the fake Scouse accent annoyance I thought had long been dispensed with given the many Liverpool actors on film now. Maybe they couldnt get any to take part.

 

[longers]

Should be a time rule in place that they can't make a film without the family's permission

What if a film is about a tragedy where lots of people get killed ? Do film makers need to get permission from all victims families before making it ? How far do you take this ? No films about 9/11 unless you ask for permission and get the ok from 2753 separate families ? What if 2752 of them are fine but then one family isn’t ? I understand that’s obviously an extreme example and not the case with this documentary but a ruling like you suggest would surely open a can of worms in terms of what can and can’t be made ?

 

[4737carlin]

If she says she should of been consulted then who is anyone to disagree, for me out of respect they should of done, its not like it was a long time ago, for me it seems like yesterday. Besides I'm sure if they wanted to it wouldn't be so hard to find her contact details.
To think these two rats might even have watched it, imagine if it was on at the cinema, you might be sitting next to one and not even know it, hopefully one day someone catches up with them

 

[The binman chronicles]

What if a film is about a tragedy where lots of people get killed ? Do film makers need to get permission from all victims before making it ? How far do you take this ? No films about 9/11 unless you ask for permission and get the ok from 2753 separate families ? What if 2752 of them are fine but then one family isn’t ? I understand that’s obviously an extreme example and not the case with this documentary but a ruling like your suggest would surely open a can of worms in terms of what can and can’t be made ?

You kind of answered the question yourself. A terrorist attack that causes multiple deaths is totally different compared to a single child that was brutally tortured before being killed. I kind of think that any film that focuses on one real life victim or gives a lot of screen time to a few should have to be approved first by the families.