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My opinion on Man Utd and the future

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I've been around for a few new teams and transition periods, and this one has been amongst the better ones because we have actually been successful. That said, I just get the feeling that somewhere along this road, we have lost our plan and are now just hoping certain random things stick. The midfield hopes were pinned on Cleverley and Anderson, while we lost Pogba and Morrison. The wingers have stagnated/regressed, Young has proven to be a pointless signing. Then somewhere along the way, we flirted with the idea of changing our style, and bought Kagawa - who in reality also looks a bit of a pointless purchase too at present (talented as he may be). Welbeck at 23, doesn't really look like he will be a major first XI contributor, and I now think we have also further complicated/confused things by blowing a load on Fellaini.

We have added De Gea, Smalling and Jones who look to have been great investments, but generally, I think the squad development over the last 3 or 4 seasons have lacked structure and frankly been a bit of a mess that in all honesty, probably needs to be re-started to an extent, firstly with a clear idea of formation and style that we plan to use, and then players of the right calibre/potential and more importantly - style, to make it work.

I know we don't have the money of Chelsea, but I think that I have seen their transitions of late and it at least all makes sense. They were known as a defensive, physical and perhaps route one team with Drogba and co. Roman clearly wanted a brand of attacking football, and in came Mata, Hazard and Oscar. They have added Luiz and Bertrand is coming through as a potential Cole replacement. They are still short a few players I think, but the vision has at least taken clear shape. Similar can be said of Rodgers at Liverpool. In fact, I'd say his transformation may be complete by the summer window.

We just look like we are trying a bit of everything at the moment, and that has shown in the quality of our football. We have done well to still win things, but I can't really see the journey yet. A lot of what we have added to the squad via purchase or promotion haven't added really, and it's all a bit random and hit and hope.

I reckon a fair degree of ruthlessness will be needed to correct our slight detour and get us back on the right path. That said, such ruthlessness may be inhibited by a combination of a lack of funds, and the 'United way', which means we will firstly be especially reluctant to move on an academy graduate, and also, a club that gives second, third and fourth chances to players.
 

The biggest factor for me is that top end players are no longer attracted to playing in your team.

Until United start acting like other big clubs in the transfer market, which includes pandering to agents, stumping up big wages, and stumping up massive transfer fees in the region of £35-£50 million euros, then almost any talented player who's chased by a number of clubs e.g Alexis Sanchez, Nasri, Lucas etc.. We'll fail to get.

It's the reason we signed Fellaini, and it's also the reason there is a clamour to sign somebody from Newcastle United in Cabaye, due to him being "realistic." When Real Madrid drew up their transfer plans at the start of the Summer, there was nothing realistic about spending £30 million on Illaramendi and £80 million on Gareth Bale. They went out and did it, though. Yes, the game is a nonsense. The window is madness. But they don't give out prizes for transfer morality. The market moved on without Manchester United and until United catch up and guys like Woodward start putting the money where the mouth is, players like Gundogan, Vidal amongst others, will always be dubbed as unrealistic, even though they'll somehow end up at Barcelona or Real Madrid at some point down the line.

So, either the club genuinely can't afford to spend the extra money, which is fine if finances are that tight. However, if the money is there, the approach must change.
 
I've been around for a few new teams and transition periods, and this one has been amongst the better ones because we have actually been successful. That said, I just get the feeling that somewhere along this road, we have lost our plan and are now just hoping certain random things stick. The midfield hopes were pinned on Cleverley and Anderson, while we lost Pogba and Morrison. The wingers have stagnated/regressed, Young has proven to be a pointless signing. Then somewhere along the way, we flirted with the idea of changing our style, and bought Kagawa - who in reality also looks a bit of a pointless purchase too at present (talented as he may be). Welbeck at 23, doesn't really look like he will be a major first XI contributor, and I now think we have also further complicated/confused things by blowing a load on Fellaini.

We have added De Gea, Smalling and Jones who look to have been great investments, but generally, I think the squad development over the last 3 or 4 seasons have lacked structure and frankly been a bit of a mess that in all honesty, probably needs to be re-started to an extent, firstly with a clear idea of formation and style that we plan to use, and then players of the right calibre/potential and more importantly - style, to make it work.

I know we don't have the money of Chelsea, but I think that I have seen their transitions of late and it at least all makes sense. They were known as a defensive, physical and perhaps route one team with Drogba and co. Roman clearly wanted a brand of attacking football, and in came Mata, Hazard and Oscar. They have added Luiz and Bertrand is coming through as a potential Cole replacement. They are still short a few players I think, but the vision has at least taken clear shape. Similar can be said of Rodgers at Liverpool. In fact, I'd say his transformation may be complete by the summer window.

We just look like we are trying a bit of everything at the moment, and that has shown in the quality of our football. We have done well to still win things, but I can't really see the journey yet. A lot of what we have added to the squad via purchase or promotion haven't added really, and it's all a bit random and hit and hope.

I reckon a fair degree of ruthlessness will be needed to correct our slight detour and get us back on the right path. That said, such ruthlessness may be inhibited by a combination of a lack of funds, and the 'United way', which means we will firstly be especially reluctant to move on an academy graduate, and also, a club that gives second, third and fourth chances to players.
Can you tell us what point of this thread is, considering this is an Everton forum?
 

Until United start acting like other big clubs in the transfer market, which includes pandering to agents, stumping up big wages, and stumping up massive transfer fees in the region of £35-£50 million euros, then almost any talented player who's chased by a number of clubs e.g Alexis Sanchez, Nasri, Lucas etc.. We'll fail to get.

It's the reason we signed Fellaini, and it's also the reason there is a clamour to sign somebody from Newcastle United in Cabaye, due to him being "realistic." When Real Madrid drew up their transfer plans at the start of the Summer, there was nothing realistic about spending £30 million on Illaramendi and £80 million on Gareth Bale. They went out and did it, though. Yes, the game is a nonsense. The window is madness. But they don't give out prizes for transfer morality. The market moved on without Manchester United and until United catch up and guys like Woodward start putting the money where the mouth is, players like Gundogan, Vidal amongst others, will always be dubbed as unrealistic, even though they'll somehow end up at Barcelona or Real Madrid at some point down the line.

So, either the club genuinely can't afford to spend the extra money, which is fine if finances are that tight. However, if the money is there, the approach must change.

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I've been around for a few new teams and transition periods, and this one has been amongst the better ones because we have actually been successful. That said, I just get the feeling that somewhere along this road, we have lost our plan and are now just hoping certain random things stick. The midfield hopes were pinned on Cleverley and Anderson, while we lost Pogba and Morrison. The wingers have stagnated/regressed, Young has proven to be a pointless signing. Then somewhere along the way, we flirted with the idea of changing our style, and bought Kagawa - who in reality also looks a bit of a pointless purchase too at present (talented as he may be). Welbeck at 23, doesn't really look like he will be a major first XI contributor, and I now think we have also further complicated/confused things by blowing a load on Fellaini.

We have added De Gea, Smalling and Jones who look to have been great investments, but generally, I think the squad development over the last 3 or 4 seasons have lacked structure and frankly been a bit of a mess that in all honesty, probably needs to be re-started to an extent, firstly with a clear idea of formation and style that we plan to use, and then players of the right calibre/potential and more importantly - style, to make it work.

I know we don't have the money of Chelsea, but I think that I have seen their transitions of late and it at least all makes sense. They were known as a defensive, physical and perhaps route one team with Drogba and co. Roman clearly wanted a brand of attacking football, and in came Mata, Hazard and Oscar. They have added Luiz and Bertrand is coming through as a potential Cole replacement. They are still short a few players I think, but the vision has at least taken clear shape. Similar can be said of Rodgers at Liverpool. In fact, I'd say his transformation may be complete by the summer window.

We just look like we are trying a bit of everything at the moment, and that has shown in the quality of our football. We have done well to still win things, but I can't really see the journey yet. A lot of what we have added to the squad via purchase or promotion haven't added really, and it's all a bit random and hit and hope.

I reckon a fair degree of ruthlessness will be needed to correct our slight detour and get us back on the right path. That said, such ruthlessness may be inhibited by a combination of a lack of funds, and the 'United way', which means we will firstly be especially reluctant to move on an academy graduate, and also, a club that gives second, third and fourth chances to players.

Hahahahahahahahahaha......didn't take long for the Moyes Effect to kick in.......
 


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