Mounjaro and other weight loss drugs.

[Jacko93]

I got fat, so I'm taking weight loss drugs. I'm losing loads of weight and can now exercise again.

Anybody else done these, and what do you think about them. Personally, I think that when/if they are available in tablet form the world will change and it will be a huge benefit to society.

There's loads of stuff that this will effect, but not all positively..... thoughts?

 

[Bkk Andy]

What happens once the medication is stopped. I would imagine that the chances of becoming fat again are high or do these become lifelong dependencies?

Long term medications must have side effects. Liver, kidneys? Heart problems? Thyroid cancer?

We've become a world where popping a pill is seen as a reasonable alternative to self discipline and healthy living. There will be a price to pay in the long term. The best type of medicine is living in a way that prevents us needing medicine in the first place.

I don't mean this offensively to you personally, and I'm hypocritical in that I'm 5 kilos overweight despite having lost 16kgs from my heaviest weight. However, I feel like humans need to take responsibility and ownership for their own behaviours rather than relying on magic pills to reverse avoidable problems.

 

[KaiserEFC]

Use it to the point you can exercise and then in conjunction with a decent diet come off it and maintain that and hey presto you’re sorted.

There is no such thing as a miracle drug, becoming reliant on it will have long term consequences so just use it as a tool towards weight loss and a healthier lifestyle would be my guess

 

[Efcjake]

Can't beat the old tried and true methods of poverty and depression, much cheaper.

Missus is a nurse and she's said it does some funny things with digestion where they've found something someone ate weeks ago in their stomach during a surgery.

Loads in the states and up north here are on it. Who knows about long term but it seems to do wonders for people getting their lives and self confidence back and hopefully making adjustments to long term healthier habits is easier.

If it helps people knock some bad habits and get healthier lifestyles then go for it. From what I've heard it just makes you feel full because it does actually slow the digestive system to a crawl but I am no doctor or nurse.

 

[bluerobert]

What happens once the medication is stopped. I would imagine that the chances of becoming fat again are high or do these become lifelong dependencies?

Long term medications must have side effects. Liver, kidneys? Heart problems? Thyroid cancer?

We've become a world where popping a pill is seen as a reasonable alternative to self discipline and healthy living. There will be a price to pay in the long term. The best type of medicine is living in a way that prevents us needing medicine in the first place.

I don't mean this offensively to you personally, and I'm hypocritical in that I'm 5 kilos overweight despite having lost 16kgs from my heaviest weight. However, I feel like humans need to take responsibility and ownership for their own behaviours rather than relying on magic pills to reverse avoidable problems.

I know 2 girls on it and weight has dropped off them. Probably about 5 stone in a year. I get what you’re saying and I think in most circumstances you’re right however I know one of the girls has a thyroid problem, has been on a diet for basically the last 15 years but not been able to lose enough weight to be able to get into a solid exercise regime and suffered sever depression. The girl wants to go through IVF but can’t till her BMI is below a certain level and is in her mid 30’s so time is running out.

You’ll always be healthier by building fitness but sometimes the priority is losing weight so the weight doesn’t kill you. Some people have injuries that make the exercise difficult.

It’s been in development for years and been through enough testing to deem it safe for use, I’m sure length of time on it etc has been considered. All because we can still wash our clothes in a river doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use a washing machine.

I need to lose weight but it’s not something I’d consider personally. I think it’s about personal choice and circumstance though isn’t it. If people want to use it, it works and it’s safe for them I’ll never yuk another man’s yum

 

[Jacko93]

What happens once the medication is stopped. I would imagine that the chances of becoming fat again are high or do these become lifelong dependencies?

Long term medications must have side effects. Liver, kidneys? Heart problems? Thyroid cancer?

We've become a world where popping a pill is seen as a reasonable alternative to self discipline and healthy living. There will be a price to pay in the long term. The best type of medicine is living in a way that prevents us needing medicine in the first place.

I don't mean this offensively to you personally, and I'm hypocritical in that I'm 5 kilos overweight despite having lost 16kgs from my heaviest weight. However, I feel like humans need to take responsibility and ownership for their own behaviours rather than relying on magic pills to reverse avoidable problems.

Nah man, wouldn't take it personally, this is why I opened the thread

In my case I am using it as a way to shift habits. I got into a bit of a spiral that I struggled to get out of, with WFH and losing the walk into work, no longer doing weekend sports and instead watching my kids take part in it, snacks for the kids in he cupboard and constant grazing. I normally consider my will power quite strong but the food noise would just overpower me far too often. Once it got to a point where I was like 4-5 stone overweight, my fitness was at such a low point my lunch hour walk wouldn't touch the sides.

I've been on this since November, I've dropped 3 stone, confidence is back, swam 2km a few weeks ago, can run 5km before my knees start to creak it's genuinely been a game changer for me.

I have the fear of dependency as well, but I guess time will tell. As long as I use it as habit forming I should be OK. That might not work for everybody though.

The liver/kidney thing is a good point though as it changes the way your body deals with sugars, pushing it through the liver, so you need to ensure you drink plenty of water.

I have a good few family members who have developed type 2 diabetes, so I'm susceptible to it as well. I guess this course of action is a bit of a hail Mary to try and prevent it as quick as possible.

 

[blue61]

As positive as the results may be, drugs are never the long term answer. A few lengthy walks a week coupled with a healthy diet will do the same job and save the NHS a fortune.

 

[magicjuan]

Diabetic, on Monjauro now, Ozempic previously. Still a fat git

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

I got fat, so I'm taking weight loss drugs. I'm losing loads of weight and can now exercise again.

Anybody else done these, and what do you think about them. Personally, I think that when/if they are available in tablet form the world will change and it will be a huge benefit to society.

There's loads of stuff that this will effect, but not all positively..... thoughts?

Difficult it is.
Find out why you got overweight.
It's not as easy as you just eat more ,wrong food, etc.

 

[Littlesue]

As long as it's given to genuine obese folk and not skinny girls like Katie Price who want to be even skinnier

 

[Nymzee]

Don’t like the idea of jabbing myself to try lose weight.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

@Joey66

 

[cronullasharks]

Know about half a dozen people who got the lap band surgery, 2 of them are friends of my wife who both started shovelling the pizzas and mcdonalds straight back down their gobs as soon as they could and got fat again. The others were some lads I work with who have been disciplined as with diet and exercise and are right in shape now.

 

[Bryan+]

Interesting, I WFH and managed to shed about 3 stone through consistency. I’ve got a high number of illnesses including diet, digestive problems and arthritis. The problem lies within mate, it took me a very, very, long time - and I appreciate that’s different for us all.

The answer is consistency, in both eating, in calories, and in exercise and mental health too. Good luck, if only people were as sceptical about weight loss jabs as they were about vaccines eh.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

My concern With all these weight loss drugs is that really we don’t know the long term impact of them. They were for diabetes so they replace the insulin in the body. But what happens if you take this for a couple of years and then stop? Will a person without diabetes start normal insulin production again? Or will you be permanently dependant on the drug.
There are some links to thyroid cancer as well, that’s pretty scary itself, as well as the other side effects (dizziness, nausea, etc)