Michael Jackson

[Deckard2049]

It was Safechuck mate.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mich...s-allegations-false-leaving-neverland-2469413

The issue over dates is specifically related to some part of Safechuck’s allegations concerning the abuse he alleges took place in the train station section. There is a separate issue regarding Robsoninvolving some dates where he claims to have been at the neverland ranch when his mother said he was with the family at the Grand Canyon. As recently as 2016 the mother again stated this to be fact. It’s all in the article I’ve linked.

Doesn’t exonerate Jackson but what it does do is perhaps highlight some of the flaws behind the filmmaking. How could they not have this researched in order to corroborate their allegations? If they were in a court of law under cross examination their credibility would be pounced on and decimated by an attorney .

 

[d34noj]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mich...s-allegations-false-leaving-neverland-2469413

The issue over dates is specifically related to some part of Safechuck’s allegations concerning the abuse he alleges took place in the train station section. There is a separate issue regarding Robsoninvolving some dates where he claims to have been at the neverland ranch when his mother said he was with the family at the Grand Canyon. As recently as 2016 the mother again stated this to be fact. It’s all in the article I’ve linked.

Doesn’t exonerate Jackson but what it does do is perhaps highlight some of the flaws behind the filmmaking. How could they not have this researched in order to corroborate their allegations? If they were in a court of law under cross examination their credibility would be pounced on and decimated by an attorney .

This is my entire point in this thread, I dont believe the pair in the 'documentary'. Robson seems disingenuous and emotionless, whilst at the same time having a remarkable memory for every single time the alleged abuse happened - yet 'forgets' he was actually at the Grand Canyon with his mum?

Safechuck is more believable and seemed more emotional, yet he's an entire 3 years out with his claims - he was never actually in the Train Station yet he remembers everything in intricate detail?

It's almost as if the media will make things up to sensationalise, then marginalise all counter arguments.

Surely they wouldn't do such a thing.

Edit: just to add, they have been thrown out of court multiple times with the same story.

 

[Minimeister]

This is my entire point in this thread, I dont believe the pair in the 'documentary'. Robson seems disingenuous and emotionless, whilst at the same time having a remarkable memory for every single time the alleged abuse happened - yet 'forgets' he was actually at the Grand Canyon with his mum?

Safechuck is more believable and seemed more emotional, yet he's an entire 3 years out with his claims - he was never actually in the Train Station yet he remembers everything in intricate detail?

It's almost as if the media will make things up to sensationalise, then marginalise all counter arguments.

Surely they wouldn't do such a thing.

Edit: just to add, they have been thrown out of court multiple times with the same story.

There's people on here who think Steven Avery is innocent. The media is a powerful thing.

 

[d34noj]

There's people on here who think Steven Avery is innocent. The media is a powerful thing.

Exactly mate, it's simple to sway the public one way or another. We are all essentially sheep.

 

[wilfjacko]

Exactly mate, it's simple to sway the public one way or another. We are all essentially sheep.

Baa!

 

[wilfjacko]

Bloody Nora.
That was quick.

 

[Wizard]

The Neverland train part of it is clearly baffling. How did they not research something as simple as that when checking the stories (maybe they didn’t)?

As for Robson’s mum saying something under oath, that doesn’t sway me as much. She might not have wanted to look irresponsible by leaving her child with a man she barely knew while she went on holiday. She was also massively obsessed with Jackson too so would have likely said anything to defend him. Especially when that man is being accused of child molestation at the time.

 

[d34noj]

The Neverland train part of it is clearly baffling. How did they not research something as simple as that when checking the stories (maybe they didn’t)?

As for Robson’s mum saying something under oath, that doesn’t sway me as much. She might not have wanted to look irresponsible by leaving her child with a man she barely knew while she went on holiday. She was also massively obsessed with Jackson too so would have likely said anything to defend him. Especially when that man is being accused of child molestation at the time.

Pretty sure it said it was corroborated with witnesses and photos? i'll see if I can find the article.