Michael Ball & Richard Gough on the current situation

[evertony]

Deffo at the street end,saw it with my own eyes,Gough showed great professionalism in not snotting him in front of 40000 fans,the only things Dunne got the lions share of I'm afraid was drinking,smoking and eating,one of the few things the blessed Walter did right was ridding the club of Dunne and his mate ball,two wastes of space IMHO.

I saw it too Davek....came out from defending a corner and Gough gave Hutchison an earful for losing his man. Hutchison came from behind him and gave him a snide punch to the head. Gough didn't flinch....just gave him the eye as if to say "get ready for payback"......and apparently he got a hiding in the changies.

 

[EverBlue86]

I think that's Barry however Barry hasn't been there long enough I would guess to start bitching to the old Moyes crew especially if he himself is underperforming.

Martinez needs to start fresh.

The same moyes crew that got us regular top 6 finishes?

Be careful what you wish for mate, for all moyes faults he brought in the right type of characters whereas martinez has brought in a number of players of questionable character ie. Alcaraz, Mcgeady and to an extent Eto'o and barry at times in there past. These types of characters are the first to desert you when things go bad martinez needs to think of that imo

 

[TX Bill]

Ball says



to which Gough says

This is EXACTLY what I said (either here or Twitter...can't remember these days) earlier that the players need a players only meeting and have it out.

 

[EverBlue86]

This is EXACTLY what I said (either here or Twitter...can't remember these days) earlier that the players need a players only meeting and have it out.

Issue is though mate football has changed, nowadays it's much more tactical and if martinez is setting us up wrongly and telling the lads to play a certain way then no matter how much they try they are still going to cock up

 

[TX Bill]

Issue is though mate football has changed, nowadays it's much more tactical and if martinez is setting us up wrongly and telling the lads to play a certain way then no matter how much they try they are still going to cock up

It was working last year. So now it isn't this year?

I'd put it down more to form than tactics (but would agree that tactics are playing a part) and that the players need to have a hard look at themselves at this point.

They've been soft, there's been no heart on the pitch. None.

Give up a goal and we're done. No fight, no concentration, no desire.

None.