Mandatory work placement's Any opinions??

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Isn't this simply a case of personal responsibility? If you want control over your destiny then the only way is to use your own money to live your life how you want.

If you're employed then you cede a bit of control to your employer because they pay you your income. You have some power there though as you provide skills in return for the money they pay you. That gives you leverage.

If you're getting money from the government then you cede even more control because they're essentially giving you money for doing nothing. In that kind of situation it's a case of them telling you to jump and you saying how high.

All this talk of fairness is nonsense. Life isn't fair or just. Most folks get that by the time they graduate from the playground.

We live and die by the choices we make in life. I mean if you sink 30k into a degree, isn't it sensible to at least check how the job market is for that kind of qualification once you graduate BEFORE you sign up? Governments don't force people to do media studies degrees from a poor university. I mean it's fair to say that graduates in STEM subjects aren't having a tough time finding work.

absolutely no perception of the situation that lots find themselves in ? well maybe instead of doing another course to gain a pay rise you should consider doing one on understanding others and gaining some compassion. The things you write are very insulting to those having to RELY on benefits to make up their wage, in fact you show zero understanding of the situation at all.

you're alright bruce and basically you couldn't give a flying stuff about others, kids going hungry, well thats the parents fault for having them, they need to take responsibility for them. could you explain just where the food that they eat would come from ? or does the country just absolve itself of any responsibility ?

TRY just try to imagine how your life could've turned out.

That's an option, but the fact remains that those that take the money are beholden to the wims of the people that give it them (ie, the government).

It's nonsense to say you're forced to work in Poundland, because you aren't at all. You can easily decide not to take the money and be self sufficient.

Isn't that the reality here? If you want money for nothing then it's highly likely that there will be strings attached. If you don't like the strings, don't take the money.

you cant be actively seeking work when you are in poundland putting bog roll in the aisles.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

if they need workers how about they just ****ing employ them rather than trying to sponge free labour from unemployed people.

BOOOOOOOOOM !! hitting a pound bag of nails on their heads with a pound hammer

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

I should also add Bruce that should you end up on the bones of your backside, with absolutely nothing at all, then I hope that the assistance would still be there for you as well, and that you would be given help in finding employment in your 'field' as opposed to something that is of no benefit to anyone but the bloke getting you on the cheap.

Maybe it's Socialist v Capitalist ? I don't know, but what I do know is that despite what you have said and the views that you hold, I would expect you to be given whatever help was required, and certainly if there were kids entered into the equation.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

absolutely no perception of the situation that lots find themselves in ? well maybe instead of doing another course to gain a pay rise you should consider doing one on understanding others and gaining some compassion. The things you write are very insulting to those having to RELY on benefits to make up their wage, in fact you show zero understanding of the situation at all.

you're alright bruce and basically you couldn't give a flying stuff about others, kids going hungry, well thats the parents fault for having them, they need to take responsibility for them. could you explain just where the food that they eat would come from ? or does the country just absolve itself of any responsibility ?

TRY just try to imagine how your life could've turned out.

you cant be actively seeking work when you are in poundland putting bog roll in the aisles.

That's just it though Reidy, it's nothing to do with compassion on my behalf or indeed on anyone's behalf. We might pay taxes, but we have very little say in how they're spent.

If you're on welfare then you are beholden to what the government of the time want from you. That naturally deprives you of a good deal of control over your destiny. You don't need an understanding of peoples individual circumstances to have an understanding that this is the way benefits work.

That's not my opinion, that's not anything to do with right or wrong or fair, that's just how it is.

With most charitable donations there are strings attached to them. If you don't like the strings, you can either not take the money or try and alter the strings but you know as well as I do how difficult it is to change how governments think and behave.

 

[degsy]

Is it fair to make people do some work to get their benefits???

I have to work for my ' benefits ' so why not.

 

[Coach]

absolutely no perception of the situation that lots find themselves in ? well maybe instead of doing another course to gain a pay rise you should consider doing one on understanding others and gaining some compassion. The things you write are very insulting to those having to RELY on benefits to make up their wage, in fact you show zero understanding of the situation at all.

you're alright bruce and basically you couldn't give a flying stuff about others, kids going hungry, well thats the parents fault for having them, they need to take responsibility for them. could you explain just where the food that they eat would come from ? or does the country just absolve itself of any responsibility ?

TRY just try to imagine how your life could've turned out.



you cant be actively seeking work when you are in poundland putting bog roll in the aisles.

<Standing ovation>

 

[HSD]

I don't know. It's not as easy as 'yes or no' because every single person is in a different situation. I think some, if it would definitely help, then it would be nice to have that opportunity for them. But then if you were having to spend loads to get to the place and it wouldn't actually help at all then that'd be a bit annoying.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

It should definitely be mandatory for people who haven't had a job in years, and for those families who are serial benefit claimers and have never worked in their lives. At least make them clean up the community, for example, to earn their keep.

 

[Andy Tuck]

It should definitely be mandatory for people who haven't had a job in years, and for those families who are serial benefit claimers and have never worked in their lives. At least make them clean up the community, for example, to earn their keep.

Exactly my thoughts, Fill the potholes, Maintain incapable peoples gardens and houses, picking litter up and many more things similar!!

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Exactly my thoughts, Fill the potholes, Maintain incapable peoples gardens and houses, picking litter up and many more things similar!!

Indeed. They'd soon remarkably find a job I'm sure.

 

[Allezfan]

I believe most people on job seekers honestly want to work so I have no problem with giving them work experience to help them out.