ArtourxD
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** I know it might be a long read but hear me out**
Just a thought blues,
I've been thinking about what is to blame for England's mishap at the world cup and I have come to a slight conclusion Manchester City are partly to blame. As we all know City have bought every single piece of silverware that they have won. With their team at times incomparable to any premier league squad. Though this comes at a price to the national squad because certain young English players simply don't get a chance to perform on Europe's biggest stage against the best players in the world.
City only have 3 regular starting english players, Joe Hart, Milner and Lampard who'll be leaving at the end of the season. We can all agree that their youth system is woeful so they're not going to be producing the next Ross Barkley anytime soon, unless they sign him of course. All I'm trying to say is if city were a bang average, mid table club as they were a while ago. More english players and youngsters would have been given the chance to play against europe's best. As a different team each time would have taken their place.
This is only going on the basis that the top 10 teams would have finished in the same position, baring City who would have lost more games and finished mid table. Putting injuries, points aside and clubs making the same transfers.
2009/10 Season City came 5th which meant Everton came 8th and thus missed out on a UEFA cup spot. For the next season.
We all remember how Moyes loved to play the youngsters in the UEFA cup with the likes of Seamus Coleman, Jack Rodwell, Shane Duffy etc all making their debuts in the Europa League. A key development in every players stage is game time and the amount of it. These are our english stars that missed out on that opportunity of matches who were in our squad. Hibbert, Baines, Jags, Neville, Osman, Rodwell Jose Baxter and Jermaine Beckford. I'm not saying all these players are England worthy but they missed out on a chance to prove them selves on a bigger stage. A recent example of that is the hot striker Harry Kane. Baring in mind he only scored two goals in 16 matches at loan spells at Norwich and Leicester. He proved him self in the Europa League because he was scoring for fun and now he's the top scorer in all competitions in the Premiership. Who knows what would have happened if Beckford found the scoring boots he had at Leeds in the Europa League, though he didn't get the chance to prove him self and find form by playing more regular football.
2010/11 Season City came 3rd this meant that Tottenham who came 5th missed out on the Champions League qualification.
These are the English players that missed out on playing on that stage were Kyle Walker, Michael Dawson, Danny Rose, David Bentley, Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone, Jermaine Jenas, Aaron Lennon and Jermaine Defoe.
2011/12 Season City came 1st this meant that Newcastle who came 5th did not get the chance to play in the Champions league the following season.
The english players that missed out on that chance were James Perch, Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson Ryan Taylor, Steven Taylor and our old Dan Gosling.
2012/2013 Season It was Tottenham that missed out the champions league place and barring a few youngsters that I've never heard off and Harry Kane, though he'd have been out on loan, their squad was no different.
2013/2014 Season Finally it was Everton that missed out on a Champions League spot because we were 5th.
This means that from our current squad the English players that missed out on Champions League experience were Baines, Hibbert, Jags, John Stones, Ross Barkley, Gareth Barry. Though it wasn't just them it was our whole squad. I think Deulofeu would have thought of a 2 year loan deal if we were in the Champions League, plus the talent that would have come knocking on our door had we got that qualification. I'm sure Bobby would have pulled a few loans out of the bag and dealing out the bag for better players. John Stones, Deulofeu, Barkley, Lukaku the arrogant youngsters that live for the big stage imagine what they could have done had they been given the chance.
What I'm trying to say is it's stopping the development of English talent and certain types of player don't get given an opportunity to play at the level. It's not just that though Goodison, St James's and White Hart Lane would sell out instantly for all Champions League matches you'd be lucky to get a ticket. City have to sell their's at buy one get one free and that is embarrassing. Think also about the amount of money that you can get from a run in europe. So City also took the money from them european nights games away from the teams that could have broke into the top 4.
Manchester city are a terminal disease to English football and it's only about to get worse now Van Gaal can splash the cash on the top players. Although United are not as bad as City yet at least they're giving some of their youngsters a chance.
P.S not to mention the amount of talent that city leave to rot on their bench
Gareth Barry
Jack Rodwell
Adam Johnson
Scott Sinclair
P.P.S
I'm only saying that the english players weren't given a chance and all the players that I picked I felt had a realistic opportunity, due to squad rotation, of playing in them sort of games.
Just a thought blues,
I've been thinking about what is to blame for England's mishap at the world cup and I have come to a slight conclusion Manchester City are partly to blame. As we all know City have bought every single piece of silverware that they have won. With their team at times incomparable to any premier league squad. Though this comes at a price to the national squad because certain young English players simply don't get a chance to perform on Europe's biggest stage against the best players in the world.
City only have 3 regular starting english players, Joe Hart, Milner and Lampard who'll be leaving at the end of the season. We can all agree that their youth system is woeful so they're not going to be producing the next Ross Barkley anytime soon, unless they sign him of course. All I'm trying to say is if city were a bang average, mid table club as they were a while ago. More english players and youngsters would have been given the chance to play against europe's best. As a different team each time would have taken their place.
This is only going on the basis that the top 10 teams would have finished in the same position, baring City who would have lost more games and finished mid table. Putting injuries, points aside and clubs making the same transfers.
2009/10 Season City came 5th which meant Everton came 8th and thus missed out on a UEFA cup spot. For the next season.
We all remember how Moyes loved to play the youngsters in the UEFA cup with the likes of Seamus Coleman, Jack Rodwell, Shane Duffy etc all making their debuts in the Europa League. A key development in every players stage is game time and the amount of it. These are our english stars that missed out on that opportunity of matches who were in our squad. Hibbert, Baines, Jags, Neville, Osman, Rodwell Jose Baxter and Jermaine Beckford. I'm not saying all these players are England worthy but they missed out on a chance to prove them selves on a bigger stage. A recent example of that is the hot striker Harry Kane. Baring in mind he only scored two goals in 16 matches at loan spells at Norwich and Leicester. He proved him self in the Europa League because he was scoring for fun and now he's the top scorer in all competitions in the Premiership. Who knows what would have happened if Beckford found the scoring boots he had at Leeds in the Europa League, though he didn't get the chance to prove him self and find form by playing more regular football.
2010/11 Season City came 3rd this meant that Tottenham who came 5th missed out on the Champions League qualification.
These are the English players that missed out on playing on that stage were Kyle Walker, Michael Dawson, Danny Rose, David Bentley, Scott Parker, Tom Huddlestone, Jermaine Jenas, Aaron Lennon and Jermaine Defoe.
2011/12 Season City came 1st this meant that Newcastle who came 5th did not get the chance to play in the Champions league the following season.
The english players that missed out on that chance were James Perch, Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson Ryan Taylor, Steven Taylor and our old Dan Gosling.
2012/2013 Season It was Tottenham that missed out the champions league place and barring a few youngsters that I've never heard off and Harry Kane, though he'd have been out on loan, their squad was no different.
2013/2014 Season Finally it was Everton that missed out on a Champions League spot because we were 5th.
This means that from our current squad the English players that missed out on Champions League experience were Baines, Hibbert, Jags, John Stones, Ross Barkley, Gareth Barry. Though it wasn't just them it was our whole squad. I think Deulofeu would have thought of a 2 year loan deal if we were in the Champions League, plus the talent that would have come knocking on our door had we got that qualification. I'm sure Bobby would have pulled a few loans out of the bag and dealing out the bag for better players. John Stones, Deulofeu, Barkley, Lukaku the arrogant youngsters that live for the big stage imagine what they could have done had they been given the chance.
What I'm trying to say is it's stopping the development of English talent and certain types of player don't get given an opportunity to play at the level. It's not just that though Goodison, St James's and White Hart Lane would sell out instantly for all Champions League matches you'd be lucky to get a ticket. City have to sell their's at buy one get one free and that is embarrassing. Think also about the amount of money that you can get from a run in europe. So City also took the money from them european nights games away from the teams that could have broke into the top 4.
Manchester city are a terminal disease to English football and it's only about to get worse now Van Gaal can splash the cash on the top players. Although United are not as bad as City yet at least they're giving some of their youngsters a chance.
P.S not to mention the amount of talent that city leave to rot on their bench
Gareth Barry
Jack Rodwell
Adam Johnson
Scott Sinclair
P.P.S
I'm only saying that the english players weren't given a chance and all the players that I picked I felt had a realistic opportunity, due to squad rotation, of playing in them sort of games.
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