Man City going for world domination

Milk · August 4, 2014

From Telegraph:

[Arsene Wenger] believes City could eventually own as many as five clubs around the world and players could move between them. They own New York City in the United States and Melbourne City in Australia and have invested in a minority share of Yokohama F Marinos in Japan. Spanish striker David Villa will play on loan in Melbourne until he can start the next MLS season alongside Lampard in New York.
Asked about Lampard’s loan move to City, Wenger said: “It is a surprise after the statements we heard. It looks like all these City clubs will feed the main club. They bought the New York franchise for $100 million [£59.4 million] in the States to play next season and, at the moment, the players they sign cannot play until next year.

“I heard they want to buy five clubs all around the world. The players will register in the clubs where they will put them and they can get out on loan. Is it a way to get around the fair play? I don’t know.”

If true, I can see them stockpiling young talent from around the world in order to get around FFP.

Ah well, we can but dream of titles .............

Mikey_Fitzgerald · August 4, 2014

Arsene Wenger in complaining about another club's business practices shocker

The Cowboy · August 4, 2014

Who cares about FFP? Everyone knows the worlds richest people are rich cos they know how to beat the system. It'll never make any difference anyway, they get paltry fines that are pocket money to the owners, and transfer restrictions that just get lifted on appeal.

roydo · August 4, 2014

Makes me wish City would just do one and go and play in one the other leagues. Be great for their brand I am sure.

toffee matt · August 4, 2014

The Cowboy said:
Who cares about FFP? Everyone knows the worlds richest people are rich cos they know how to beat the system. It'll never make any difference anyway, they get paltry fines that are pocket money to the owners, and transfer restrictions that just get lifted on appeal.

@bizzaro

Toffeelover · August 4, 2014

Wenger is probably wishing Arsenal's owners came up with something like that, not called Winger for nothing.

bizzaro · August 4, 2014

Milk said:
From Telegraph:

[Arsene Wenger] believes City could eventually own as many as five clubs around the world and players could move between them. They own New York City in the United States and Melbourne City in Australia and have invested in a minority share of Yokohama F Marinos in Japan. Spanish striker David Villa will play on loan in Melbourne until he can start the next MLS season alongside Lampard in New York.
Asked about Lampard’s loan move to City, Wenger said: “It is a surprise after the statements we heard. It looks like all these City clubs will feed the main club. They bought the New York franchise for $100 million [£59.4 million] in the States to play next season and, at the moment, the players they sign cannot play until next year.

“I heard they want to buy five clubs all around the world. The players will register in the clubs where they will put them and they can get out on loan. Is it a way to get around the fair play? I don’t know.”

If true, I can see them stockpiling young talent from around the world in order to get around FFP.

Ah well, we can but dream of titles .............

UEFA will just adapt FFP. To take account of this method of cheating.

You watch. They will.

degsy · August 6, 2014

bizzaro said:
UEFA will just adapt FFP. To take account of this method of cheating.

You watch. They will.

as UEFA don't hold sway in NY, Melbourne, Yokohama... where was the other one?
It will be up to FIFA
and that's an even bigger 'don't hold your breath ' than the UEFA one

always remember the Golden Rule....

Those that have the gold make the rules

bizzaro · August 6, 2014

degsy said:
as UEFA don't hold sway in NY, Melbourne, Yokohama... where was the other one?
It will be up to FIFA
and that's an even bigger 'don't hold your breath ' than the UEFA one

always remember the Golden Rule....

Those that have the gold make the rules

UEFA do hold sway in Europe over Man City

Further there are already "related companies" provisions in the FFP text on sponsorship.

I see UEFA changing the rules to GROUP COMPANIES in response to Man City trying to cheat them. Trying to establish a group company to override them

Uefa already said they would adapt to any attempt to cheat FFP.

Its all about Jurisdiction. Uefa do have jurisdiction over Man City. That is all that matters since they can simply prohibit certain group transactions or deals that obviously are not consistent with FFP

Bruce Wayne · August 6, 2014

Not that dissimilar to the feeder clubs that were popular a while ago. For instance, I think clubs would regularly 'partner' with clubs in Belgium because of their more relaxed immigration rules and place any young players there until they met the criteria to come into England. Fairly sure both United and Arsenal did that. Indeed, this site suggests Arsenal have similar arrangements with four clubs around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_feeder_teams_in_football

The only difference with City is that they seem to own the clubs rather than just have partnerships with them.

Khalekan · August 6, 2014

Milk said:
From Telegraph:

[Arsene Wenger] believes City could eventually own as many as five clubs around the world and players could move between them. They own New York City in the United States and Melbourne City in Australia and have invested in a minority share of Yokohama F Marinos in Japan. Spanish striker David Villa will play on loan in Melbourne until he can start the next MLS season alongside Lampard in New York.
Asked about Lampard’s loan move to City, Wenger said: “It is a surprise after the statements we heard. It looks like all these City clubs will feed the main club. They bought the New York franchise for $100 million [£59.4 million] in the States to play next season and, at the moment, the players they sign cannot play until next year.

“I heard they want to buy five clubs all around the world. The players will register in the clubs where they will put them and they can get out on loan. Is it a way to get around the fair play? I don’t know.”

If true, I can see them stockpiling young talent from around the world in order to get around FFP.

Ah well, we can but dream of titles .............

City are driving a coach and four through FPP.

This needs to nipped in the bud at FIFA level.

One man/group/company should only be allowed to own one club anywhere in the world.

It won't be stopped, of course.

That would take the type of backbone FIFA don't possess.

Instead the game will be allowed to drift into this farcical situation where City and no doubt others will follow, are free to hoover up the best young talent and take top class pro players and filter them into their main team, thus circumventing FPP.

bizzaro · August 6, 2014

Khalekan said:
City are driving a coach and four through FPP.

This needs to nipped in the bud at FIFA level.

One man/group/company should only be allowed to own one club anywhere in the world.

It won't be stopped, of course.

That would take the type of backbone FIFA don't possess.

Instead the game will be allowed to drift into this farcical situation where City and no doubt others will follow, are free to hoover up the best young talent and take top class pro players and filter them into their main team, thus circumventing FPP.

It will be stopped. By UEFA by sanctioning Man City.

For deals that go to Man City contrary to FFP.

When it happens remember who said it will.

Khalekan · August 6, 2014

bizzaro said:
It will be stopped. By UEFA by sanctioning Man City.

For deals that go to Man City contrary to FFP.

When it happens remember who said it will.

Yeah right.

UEFA really stepped up when they had the power to sanction them a few months ago.

UEFA showed great fortitude when Chelsea and Barcelona transgressed its rule in recent years.

bizzaro · August 6, 2014

Khalekan said:
Yeah right.

UEFA really stepped up when they had the power to sanction them a few months ago.

UEFA showed great fortitude when Chelsea and Barcelona transgressed its rule in recent years.

They fined them 50 million euros

Or 14 million euros per season for three years. Plus squad caps.

Uefa have to follow the principle of proportionality.

Or on appeal they'd lose. Since the courts will only uphold proportional sanctions.

This means first time round first time offense they can tap them.

Second time offense the can hit them hard. 100million euro fines plus.

Third time or more. Insta bans.

Uefa will just adapt the rules for and to include owned clubs anywhere in the world. As "related companies".

You watch. It will happen.