Liverpool City council set to approve CPOs for Anfield re-development

[Brennan]

Could the same be possible for Everton ?

Liverpool will move a step closer to starting the redevelopment of Anfield when the city council announces new plans for the area on Monday.

Reds owner John Henry wants the club to remain at Anfield, rather than build a new ground on Stanley Park.
The council will announce it has given the go-ahead for a series of compulsory purchase order consultations on houses that would need to be demolished.
If the process remains on schedule, redevelopment would begin in 2014.

The prospect of compulsory purchase orders has always been the sticking point for any potential Goodison re-development, as it would not really be feasible without doing so.

CPOs would allow the club to look at expanding the size of the ground without the need to demolish the most modern Park End stand, something which has been accepted as the only realistic expansion prospect without those orders.

What i have to ask, is why has Henry been able to accomplish in 2 years (the likely acquisition of CPOs) what our board have been unable to do in much longer ? Of course it's not as simple as saying 'hey guys give us some CPOs', but both clubs are in similar situations with regard to their surroundings and the measures needed to expand their grounds.

Sort it out Bill.

 

[BoysInBlue]

I'm with you entirely on this mate, but I think a stumbling block would be that the EFC board would have to provide the funds to purchase the properties.

They haven't put any money into improving Goodison Park for a very long time now, and it would require a huge change in philosophy and will.

 

[Muggins]

It's ridiculous. Anfield is more hemmed in than Goodison.

There's a school and two short streets stopping Goodison from having a massive geographical footprint to work with.

A new stadium in the same place could incorporate a possible 2nd Everton school within the stadium complex as well as a sports centre for the community and other facilities. It would be amazing. A real legacy for the next 100 years and another piece of our history.

I know the tenants of the houses and pupils of the school won't want to leave their homes, but for the pupils and school, an offer of a new Everton endorsed school with superb facilities is a good one, as there would be no geographical relocation and it's only a positive thing. And lastly, if someone offered to pay me to move two streets away to an identical house, I'd seriously consider the offer depending on the neighbours.

 

[Jags..class]

We need a plan, we cant afford to move so we need to do the ground up, but we dont need more seats tho cos we dont fill out the ground out anymore, must be a come down for the rs tho as their plans for the new ground were amazing.

 

[Tubey]

We need a buyer before anything can happen. It's clear as day that the current board cannot/will not do anything that requires investment from them.

Stanley Park would be the way to go IMO if we were ever bought. The council have granted permission to that lot so they'd pretty much have to approve us. Well, you'd think so anyway.

 

[Brennan]

It's ridiculous. Anfield is more hemmed in than Goodison.

There's a school and two short streets stopping Goodison from having a massive geographical footprint to work with.

A new stadium in the same place could incorporate a possible 2nd Everton school within the stadium complex as well as a sports centre for the community and other facilities. It would be amazing. A real legacy for the next 100 years and another piece of our history.

I know the tenants of the houses and pupils of the school won't want to leave their homes, but for the pupils and school, an offer of a new Everton endorsed school with superb facilities is a good one, as there would be no geographical relocation and it's only a positive thing. And lastly, if someone offered to pay me to move two streets away to an identical house, I'd seriously consider the offer depending on the neighbours.

What concerns me is the seeming lack of any real will to examine expansion at all.

I'm one of the people on here who thinks that moving to another stadium would make the most sense in the long run, but if Liverpool CC are seemingly open to the idea of CPOs for Anfield i see no reason why they wouldn't be for Everton. We could leave the school alone (i imagine that would be the biggest sticking point in terms of a CPO) and still look at extending the Main Stand and Gladwys Street:

I hate to keep banging on about it, but the new PL rights deal will add a whole new layer of financial security to the club, it will see the club's turnover (assuming other revenue streams stay at the same level) rise from £82m in 2010/11 to well over £100m at the end of 2014. This is the time when the club seriously needs to be examining the best ways to further increase turnover and stabilise the club in the long run.

 

[Jags..class]

What concerns me is the seeming lack of any real will to examine expansion at all.

I'm one of the people on here who thinks that moving to another stadium would make the most sense in the long run, but if Liverpool CC are seemingly open to the idea of CPOs for Anfield i see no reason why they wouldn't be for Everton. We could leave the school alone (i imagine that would be the biggest sticking point in terms of a CPO) and still look at extending the Main Stand and Gladwys Street:

I hate to keep banging on about it, but the new PL rights deal will add a whole new layer of financial security to the club, it will see the club's turnover (assuming other revenue streams stay at the same level) rise from £82m in 2010/11 to well over £100m at the end of 2014. This is the time when the club seriously needs to be examining the best ways to further increase turnover and stabilise the club in the long run.

Great post

The extra money could easily end up in players and agents pockets, players such as rooney are earning around 700 grand a month, agents are not soft and will demand extra, but say the club is still making a profit then it need to go into the development of goodsion and not all on players wages, we have one of the best managers in the country to work on a budget looking after us.

 

[nigelcoyb]

No retail park - no added value for Bill, Phil and co.

If Kenwrights years tell you anything the only investment him and the present crew are interested in is one that guarantees an immediate return.

Improving Goodison and expanding the capacity would be brilliant for the club. The players would respond to glorious Goodison again being one of the most eminent grounds in the country and the fans!! it goes without saying how brilliant it would be for us - but it's a long term investment not immediate payback.

Turning wastelands into shops on the pretence it's fcking marvellous for EFC and there's no other option is property developing pure and simple. The added value to the commercial land not to mention Phil getting a free shop or 2 is an instant money spinner.

Unscrupulous vandals with no fckin' interest in the long term interests of this club.

 

[Royal]

The council have always shown favouritism to that lot.

 

[tim cahill]

The problem with redeveloping Goodison is they would need a lot more land to build it to the same capacity without posts and each stand would basically need taking down and starting from scratch. The extra land would cost millions, and building it all bit by bit like that would cost so much more than if they were just able to find a big empty patch of land and put a completely new one up.

 

[BossBlue]

Would love us to get something like the East Stand at Leeds to replace the Bullens. Remove the posts from the Main Stand roof which should be possible in this day and age and we'd be in business.

As others have said tho...the current board aren't arsed.

 

[Brennan]

The problem with redeveloping Goodison is they would need a lot more land to build it to the same capacity without posts and each stand would basically need taking down and starting from scratch. The extra land would cost millions, and building it all bit by bit like that would cost so much more than if they were just able to find a big empty patch of land and put a completely new one up.

It wouldn't by virtue of the fact that the Park End could easily be kept and we wouldn't need to buy a huge plot of land. You're right about the post issue though.

 

[BoysInBlue]

The other problem of course is that before we'd even be able to start thinking about CPOs of the houses and the schools and the car lots etc that surround the ground, we'd have to make sure we actually OWN the immediate land outside the ground.

Remember the Park End Stand redevelopment that was touted with much fanfare 2 years ago, with all the money coming from Kitbag and Sodexo? Even when all the money was coming from other people and not the EFC board, and after we'd knocked down the corporate marquee tents to prepare the land etc., the whole thing fell through - ostensibly because the club don't actually own some of the immediate land outside the ground. You can't build on land you don't own.

We never did have an official announcement why that fell through, or even what the delay was. It's as if Everton just want us to forget they ever announced it. Embarrassing. And the same people are still there, in place. When we can't even build a £9m new shop/museum/ticket office/fans centre (when all the money is coming from someone else) without any sort of calamity, there's no chance they'd be able to properly plan and carry out a stadium redevelopment.

 

[tim cahill]

It wouldn't by virtue of the fact that the Park End could easily be kept and we wouldn't need to buy a huge plot of land. You're right about the post issue though.

If the park end was to be kept where it is then land would need to be bought on all of the other 3 sides of the ground if we wanted to get rid of the posts (which would be the main point in doing it) and maintain the capacity as it is. The atmosphere of the ground would be lost anyway because we would be more spread out.

I see it as a complete non starter to be honest. Think we'll be stuck with Goodison as it is until someone fancies blowing £300 million or so on a brand new stadium for us.

 

[Brennan]

If the park end was to be kept where it is then land would need to be bought on all of the other 3 sides of the ground if we wanted to get rid of the posts (which would be the main point in doing it) and maintain the capacity as it is. The atmosphere of the ground would be lost anyway because we would be more spread out.

I see it as a complete non starter to be honest. Think we'll be stuck with Goodison as it is until someone fancies blowing £300 million or so on a brand new stadium for us.

How so ?

If the pitch is the same size then the stands will be the same distance apart, the only difference would be that the ground would be larger. It wouldn't be any more 'spread out' and it certainly wouldn't have any less atmosphere than a new build somewhere else. It's not like we play in the Mestalla, and the ground isn't enclosed anyway.