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Let's talk about: Rinus Michels' Ajax and Dutch national teams.

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One of the great revolutionaries of the game. Transformed Ajax from relegation candidates into the kings of Europe. After losing the 1969 European cup final to Milan and watching rivals Feyenoord become the first Dutch team to win the trophy, Ajax won it 3 times on the run and 'Total Football' was born.
Although Michels left after their first EC success over Panathanaikos (Grrr), he had clearly built the team which went on to win 2 more consecutive European cups. Cruyff, Neeskens, Krol, Haan and Rep became household names and the likes of Van Hanegem, Rensenbrink and the Van De Kerkhoff twins would join that list as Michels took The Dutch national team to the WC final in 1974 where they lost to the hosts West Germany.

The Netherlands reached the final again 4 years later. In the absence of Cruyff and Neeskens, Rob Rensenbrink was the star and was the width of the post away from winning it But Argentina went on to win 3-1 in extra time.

Ten years later Michels was back in charge of a new generation in the national team and gained some revenge by beating West Germany in the semi final. With Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard and Koeman (Yeah, I know, but he was a superb player) this was another fine group of world class players who, due to age, a lot of us will be more familiar with than the 70s vintage. To my mind though,they didn't capture the imagination as much.

As managers, Guardiola, Bielsa and others are often called disciples of Cruyff. Cruyff and Rijkaard after him are clearly disciples of Rinus Michels. As such he clearly left a tremendous legacy.

What are your memories, thoughts and impressions of these Teams and players. I'm sure posters like Dutch Toffee could give us some extra insight.

As a curious aside, I discovered some interesting details about Euro 88.

The first major tournament without a single sending off or a single goalless draw. As the only knock out matches were the semi finals and final it's not so surprising that there were no matches that went to extra time or penalties.
It was also The Republic of Ireland's first appearance at a major tournament.
 

One of the all-time greats. On of the asides about him that I remember from books was that he always made it his aim to get through as many non-football books as possible whilst he was away with a team. It might have been total football, but that wasn't his philosophy for life. It made him a better coach and person I think.

The Dutch team of '88 was simply majestic with one of the best team kits too! The big names get the attention but it was the lesser appreciated guys like Van Tiggelen, Bosman, Vouters and others that would have got into any side as well.
 
One of the all-time greats. On of the asides about him that I remember from books was that he always made it his aim to get through as many non-football books as possible whilst he was away with a team. It might have been total football, but that wasn't his philosophy for life. It made him a better coach and person I think.

The Dutch team of '88 was simply majestic with one of the best team kits too! The big names get the attention but it was the lesser appreciated guys like Van Tiggelen, Bosman, Vouters and others that would have got into any side as well.
Interesting. I suppose burn out can occur even in jobs people love. Everyone needs a release valve. Sadly too many look for escape in drink, drugs and gambling.
 
I don't think the influence of Cryuff in those early Michels days can be underestimated though. He was only a kid but from what I've read and heard was way ahead of his time. Yes there's no doubt Michels was the commander in chief but Cryuff was his first lieutenant even at that tender age. Even the senior players listened to what he had to say.
 
I don't think the influence of Cryuff in those early Michels days can be underestimated though. He was only a kid but from what I've read and heard was way ahead of his time. Yes there's no doubt Michels was the commander in chief but Cryuff was his first lieutenant even at that tender age. Even the senior players listened to what he had to say.
Defo. I've often read and heard in interviews of Cruyff that he had an incredibly astute tactical brain.
 

One of the great revolutionaries of the game. Transformed Ajax from relegation candidates into the kings of Europe. After losing the 1969 European cup final to Milan and watching rivals Feyenoord become the first Dutch team to win the trophy, Ajax won it 3 times on the run and 'Total Football' was born.
Although Michels left after their first EC success over Panathanaikos (Grrr), he had clearly built the team which went on to win 2 more consecutive European cups. Cruyff, Neeskens, Krol, Haan and Rep became household names and the likes of Van Hanegem, Rensenbrink and the Van De Kerkhoff twins would join that list as Michels took The Dutch national team to the WC final in 1974 where they lost to the hosts West Germany.

The Netherlands reached the final again 4 years later. In the absence of Cruyff and Neeskens, Rob Rensenbrink was the star and was the width of the post away from winning it But Argentina went on to win 3-1 in extra time.

Ten years later Michels was back in charge of a new generation in the national team and gained some revenge by beating West Germany in the semi final. With Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard and Koeman (Yeah, I know, but he was a superb player) this was another fine group of world class players who, due to age, a lot of us will be more familiar with than the 70s vintage. To my mind though,they didn't capture the imagination as much.

As managers, Guardiola, Bielsa and others are often called disciples of Cruyff. Cruyff and Rijkaard after him are clearly disciples of Rinus Michels. As such he clearly left a tremendous legacy.

What are your memories, thoughts and impressions of these Teams and players. I'm sure posters like Dutch Toffee could give us some extra insight.

As a curious aside, I discovered some interesting details about Euro 88.

The first major tournament without a single sending off or a single goalless draw. As the only knock out matches were the semi finals and final it's not so surprising that there were no matches that went to extra time or penalties.
It was also The Republic of Ireland's first appearance at a major tournament.
Archie Gemmill's goal against them was a cracker
 
What I find interesting is that you'll find most pundits and fans say that it doesn't matter how you play the game, it's all about winning. And yet Michels' 70s teams are still talked about today despite not winning anything. No one really talks much about Argentina's 78 team. Everyone knows Germany 72-74 were a brilliant team but they're not remembered like the Dutch team are.
 
What I find interesting is that you'll find most pundits and fans say that it doesn't matter how you play the game, it's all about winning. And yet Michels' 70s teams are still talked about today despite not winning anything. No one really talks much about Argentina's 78 team. Everyone knows Germany 72-74 were a brilliant team but they're not remembered like the Dutch team are.
This is something I often mention. The same with the great Hungarian team 20 years earlier. Didn't win the WC but won hearts and minds of successive generations.
 

I think the Dutch team of 74 was the one for me that epitomised the philosophy of Michels total football. Just a shame that they were undone by their own arrogance and of course German organisation.
 
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