Leaders

mitchell1996 · March 5, 2016

We dont have any. That wouldn't have just happened if we did, 2-0 up 15 minutes left with 10 men and we start bombing forward and playing end to end, asking for trouble. No game management at all, our individual talent and depth in the squad is sound but you need some grit and a winning mentality to go with it, we have neither.

Verbal Kint · March 5, 2016

Ah the old leader debate always pops it head up after a bad defeat, personally think it's a load of nonsense myself. The manager should be a leader, tell his players to shut up shop, make correct substitutions.

If we don't have a leader of the pitch well we are pissing into the wind.

nsno-chris · March 5, 2016

When your manager takes off a defensive winger for a striker when you're down to 10 men; you can have all the leaders in the world but they cannot stop the onslaught of crosses.

Its an averages game, sooner or later the're making contact and scoring

toffeemax · March 5, 2016

We do have leaders, we just dont have a competent manager.

mitchell1996 · March 5, 2016

When i say we have no leaders i include Martinez in that

mitchell1996 · March 5, 2016

toffeemax said:
We do have leaders, we just dont have a competent manager.

who are they then?

eternal_defiance · March 5, 2016

Mourinho is a leader

mitchell1996 · March 5, 2016

nsno-chris said:
When your manager takes off a defensive winger for a striker when you're down to 10 men; you can have all the leaders in the world but they cannot stop the onslaught of crosses.

Its an averages game, sooner or later the're making contact and scoring

3 goals in 10 minutes doesn't suggest that, its suggests we've crumbled at home again and our lack of defensive organisation and game management has cost us points, this will keep on happening

toffeemax · March 5, 2016

mitchell1996 said:
who are they then?

Jagielka, mccarthy, besic, coleman, lukaku can on his day.

mitchell1996 · March 5, 2016

toffeemax said:
Jagielka, mccarthy, besic, coleman, lukaku can on his day.

our interpretations of a leader are massively different then...
coleman ffs lol

BigDunc'sFod · March 5, 2016

Get Big Dunc on

Hong Kong Bluey · March 5, 2016

Only close to a leader at the club is dunc. No one on the pitch, and not Martinez. Don't know why, really don't. Think of the leaders we've had down the yrs.
Even just in last decade :- Cahill, Stubbs, Neville, Martyn, Gravesen,
Carsley, early Howard.
Now team too quiet despite experience of Barry, Jags.
I really think team doesn't have enuff internal demand/criticism

daz4matty · March 5, 2016

A weak manager breeds weakness in the players.
Today was not a one off its quite normal for us to bottle it and fall to pieces
Wigan were weak when he was in charge

ah11984 · March 5, 2016

Talented sure but Ive never seen a weaker group of players, any semblance of pressure put on them and they fold. You just have to look how many goals we've conceded late on in games.