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Ok the longest ceasefire in military history is looking like it could come to a close. North versus South Korea. North Korea has threatened all out war if South Korea press ahead with sanctions. South Korea are rightly going to the UN, to call for sanctions for the alleged torpedoing of a navy boat - with 40 or so sailors killed in the wreckage. International and South Korean forensics indicate that North Korea was responsible.

South Korea have already called of all trade with the North.

This would make the conflicts of Afghanistan and Iraq look like a fight for a taxi between two pissheads on a saturday night. We are taking about one of the largest conventional armies in the world (north Korea) versus a high tech modern military of smaller numbers (South Korea), and of course the numerous American Army bases (its doubtful they would stay out of it they've been allies since the first war kicked off). Even with American assistance this is no gimmie. The last war was a stalemate after all.

Also its doubtful this would be a low casualty war. Kim jong Il is an absolute nutjob of the 1st degree, a brutal totalitarian despot. Seoul, a city far larger than London, with 12 million or so people is only twenty minutes to the demilitarised zone that separates north and south. Twenty minutes by tank that is.

To make it more interesting, the north are widely reported to have a nuclear capability even if they dont yet have the ballistics systems to deliver them. They could still drop a bomb by aeroplane on Seoul killing most of the 12 million in a stroke. Or just drive the bomb into Seoul and set it off.

Time for America to rethink its policy on assassination of political figures? Really this is mostly down to one man. Most Koreans want unification. The people in the North definitely so, most of them are starving and all are poor. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the south who also didn't want unification.

But with the political situation looking intransigent, nuclear weapons and huge amounts of conventional weapons on either side (we aren't talking a machine gun welded to a pick up like Saddam had), hundreds of tanks, MIGS, artillery and soldiers - its the largest military build up of two sides in the world; and combined with a psycho leader widely rumoured to be dying of some long term illness and intent on going out in a violent blaze of glory - war and civilian deaths look incredibly likely.

Scary times.

I hope the people of Korea reach the path of unification peacefully and the tyrants like King Jong Il are dealt with appropriately. One mans madness shouldn't lead to the deaths of millions.

(good luck to teppic)
 

oh yeah its all defo gonna kick off again.

couldn't they just play each other at football???

hopefully no repeats of last time, when American pilots were unofficially fighting Russian Migs over the skies of North Korea. The Russians removed all stickers, signage etc, leaving just plain black planes...and they didn't veer to close to the border either, as if the south shot down a Russian plane nuclear war would kick off.

'Top Gun' anyone???
 
Kim Jong Ill is itching for a fight, and he might get what he wishes for..

He is an Evil person and I wish we would just put one in between his eyes at 1,000 meters, but it wont happen..
 
I'm sure Kim Jong Ill says everyone else in the world is evil. Wonder if the Russians still like him???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley

I'm telling ya lads. Its Burma you want to watch out for.

Anyone who builds a secret new capital city in the jungle, is definitely upto something. Throw in the fact they make their political decisions thru guidance of astrologers, and we've got a couple of new James Bond scripts up our sleeve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naypyidaw

They didn't have a problem building a new stadium.
 
Ok the longest ceasefire in military history is looking like it could come to a close. North versus South Korea. North Korea has threatened all out war if South Korea press ahead with sanctions. South Korea are rightly going to the UN, to call for sanctions for the alleged torpedoing of a navy boat - with 40 or so sailors killed in the wreckage. International and South Korean forensics indicate that North Korea was responsible.

South Korea have already called of all trade with the North.

This would make the conflicts of Afghanistan and Iraq look like a fight for a taxi between two pissheads on a saturday night. We are taking about one of the largest conventional armies in the world (north Korea) versus a high tech modern military of smaller numbers (South Korea), and of course the numerous American Army bases (its doubtful they would stay out of it they've been allies since the first war kicked off). Even with American assistance this is no gimmie. The last war was a stalemate after all.

Also its doubtful this would be a low casualty war. Kim jong Il is an absolute nutjob of the 1st degree, a brutal totalitarian despot. Seoul, a city far larger than London, with 12 million or so people is only twenty minutes to the demilitarised zone that separates north and south. Twenty minutes by tank that is.

To make it more interesting, the north are widely reported to have a nuclear capability even if they dont yet have the ballistics systems to deliver them. They could still drop a bomb by aeroplane on Seoul killing most of the 12 million in a stroke. Or just drive the bomb into Seoul and set it off.

Time for America to rethink its policy on assassination of political figures? Really this is mostly down to one man. Most Koreans want unification. The people in the North definitely so, most of them are starving and all are poor. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the south who also didn't want unification.

But with the political situation looking intransigent, nuclear weapons and huge amounts of conventional weapons on either side (we aren't talking a machine gun welded to a pick up like Saddam had), hundreds of tanks, MIGS, artillery and soldiers - its the largest military build up of two sides in the world; and combined with a psycho leader widely rumoured to be dying of some long term illness and intent on going out in a violent blaze of glory - war and civilian deaths look incredibly likely.

Scary times.

I hope the people of Korea reach the path of unification peacefully and the tyrants like King Jong Il are dealt with appropriately. One mans madness shouldn't lead to the deaths of millions.

(good luck to teppic)

You would expect that at least 6 of the 10 (one in refit) carrier battle groups would immediately head for the Yellow Sea and the Indian Ocean.

Along with equipment shipped out of Diego Garcia (36 hours by ship) and at least two divisions worth troops married to it in theatre.

With planes from continental US, and Diego Garcia and Australia in striking range for TLAMs too.



Big differences to the last war.....

a. Digital battle space and command and control systems
b. Precision munitions

Basically in conventional warfare the US is unchallengeable. It would turn into a turkeyshoot.

The North Koreans would resort to asymmetric tactics and probable use of WMD (chemical and biologicial) but the US would with higher casualties than previous recent conflicts win out.

The precision weaponry, command and control and use of both in conjunction mean that the North Korean's would quickly end up being "rolled up"....
 

All that, and North Korea hiring Chinese supporters to support them during the World Cup (seeing as their own people can't leave the country) and you'd almost start disliking the North Koreans..
 
I should probably rephrase that, there's probably some nice North Koreans, I meant to say the North Korean government, aka the dude with the awesome glasses.
 

You would expect that at least 6 of the 10 (one in refit) carrier battle groups would immediately head for the Yellow Sea and the Indian Ocean.

Along with equipment shipped out of Diego Garcia (36 hours by ship) and at least two divisions worth troops married to it in theatre.

With planes from continental US, and Diego Garcia and Australia in striking range for TLAMs too.



Big differences to the last war.....

a. Digital battle space and command and control systems
b. Precision munitions

Basically in conventional warfare the US is unchallengeable. It would turn into a turkeyshoot.

The North Koreans would resort to asymmetric tactics and probable use of WMD (chemical and biologicial) but the US would with higher casualties than previous recent conflicts win out.

The precision weaponry, command and control and use of both in conjunction mean that the North Korean's would quickly end up being "rolled up"....

A Turkey Shoot? They thought that the last time. If China intervened on North Korea's behalf it would be interesting.

But the US are pretty much unmatched conventionally as you say. Thing is if it did come to this and America was taking North Korea apart, a case of when the nuclear bomb goes of, not if, is quite likely.
 

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