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Two people disagree that hes this amazing talent.

Like i said he was first spoken about when he was 15, hes currently 19 years old, what has he done in those four years that have passed since he was first getting touted as our next big talent.

Anichebe has come from no where during that time, he come from u18 to almost first team, thats how quickly he progressed.

Youth team dont do it by the age of 19/20 they end up getting chopped by us it seems.
 
Well Anichebe and Vaughan got chucked in cos we had no strikers. We have loads of midfielders, especially attacking ones, so its hard for them to break in to the team.

I just think its a little harsh to start slating the lad when he hasn't even been given a fair crack of the whip, and from people who I'm sorry are not as clued up as others.

I mean, Moyes must rate him to take him to Holland. So does Cal know more than Moyes? if he is crap then Moyes wouldn't have taken him now would he.
 
How may i ask do me or cal fall into this category 'Not as clued up as others' ?

Moyes talk half of the reserves team to Holland.
 

GhostOfDixie said:
Well Anichebe and Vaughan got chucked in cos we had no strikers. We have loads of midfielders, especially attacking ones, so its hard for them to break in to the team.

I just think its a little harsh to start slating the lad when he hasn't even been given a fair crack of the whip, and from people who I'm sorry are not as clued up as others.

I mean, Moyes must rate him to take him to Holland. So does Cal know more than Moyes? if he is crap then Moyes wouldn't have taken him now would he.
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Moyes took him to Holland yes, but rated the likes of vidarsson,rodwell juckiewitz and boyle more - saying something?

Quit complaining.
 
Excuse me mate, I am complaining about a certain member saying that a certain player is crap.

He really has to be given a chance to see if he is good or not before he can be labelled as crap.
 
GhostOfDixie said:
Excuse me mate, I am complaining about a certain member saying that a certain player is crap.

He really has to be given a chance to see if he is good or not before he can be labelled as crap.
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The labelling crap is harsh i agree, but he's not all that. If Moyes thought he was that good why would he play a 16 year old over him? I think Kissock will turn out ot be a slightly better osman - which to be fair isnt htat bad, im more excited about rodwell, baxter and agard coming through the ranks
 
I am too, but from what I have seen of Kissock, which isn't as often as the Everton Coach's (which is also more often than anyone here too), he looks comfortable on the ball, has great balance and can pick out defence splitting passes.

Some here are saying he isn't all that, etc.....Who are we to judge at this age.

I want to know why he isn't all that.
 
he hasnt really progressed since this 15 year old who hit the reserves scene, When i've seen him on a number of occasions hes just as frustrating as a McFadden, tries every trick in the book and tries to take on every player possible.

His strength needs tons of improvement, far to easily removed from the ball and his crossing has been at a poor standard.
 

You say that, yet McFadden is still seen as having a future at the club. He has had his chance, Kissock hasn't.

All I'm saying is this man who is in charge of selecting the team, he knows what he's doing and he decided to take Kissock to Holland. Why? Was there a spare seat on the plane?
 
By the looks of the bench, there was.

McFadden has a future because he has actually done stuff for the club and has improved in the past four years. Look at his scotland displays.
 
So basically he's gonna be better than Osman, or similar to mcfadden, both players who are greatly involved in our 1st team, but we should just get rid? And again, how long has it taken those two to come good? Or in mcfaddens case possibly, how long will it take? But this kid doesnt get a chance cos he hasnt set the world on fire before he's 19?
 
GhostOfDixie said:
Couldn't care less about his Scotland displays. Its his Everton displays that continue to disappoint.
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That's right, i was impress with his display when he played against Italy, but he just not shown much of it when playing for us, no good some flashes of goals from time to time, he need to do it over 90mins and he is not doing it!

The competition is getting higher than ever and the way he is going about his game while playing for Everton, i just can't see him hold down an regular place anytime soon!
 

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