Is it Moyes or is it money

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Hi i read a lot about Moyes and if he can do anymore for Everton ,has he taken them as far as he can ? If you look at the table all the teams above Everton have had an influx of money , If and IF everton had the same influx as chelsea or Mancity 'How would the people rate Moyes then . So with the money available to moyes Do you believe Everton are acheiving good results ?????
 

interesting first post mate and welcome.

i think,well know moyse can take us to the top with better funding it basicly comes down to squad size and quality we do have a very good first team and bench but as weve all seen this season the squad is to small,a couple of key injuries and we lose ground .


if he was given the spending power of the clubs you named he would execel.
 
Lets be fair here. At one stage we had around 10 first team players out injured. I don't think that's a few injuries and I don't think any squad in the Premier League would have coped with that. I mean no lesser voice than Jose Mourinho has regularly said the optimum squad size is around 23 players. Take 10 of those out of the equation and you're down the bare bones.
 
I like Moyes and he is a very good coach look at how Man city is doing they have all the money they want and they lost to Hull and to Everton.
I really like this team and I am really getting to like Fellaini he has just been on Fire. I really hope he is ok because he is a something to watch.
 
Simply Pathetic.

One bad result since December and you're calling for his sacking?

Come on now lads, everyone has bad days at the office.

He's saved the club and taken it to new heights
 

Moyes is our saviour, he has improved us year upon year, this season is one to write off - the important things are survival and getting our injured and returning fully fit! Anything else will be a bonus
 
I would still say that an assistant manager with more tactical sense (i.e. a plan B) would benefit the club and Moyes. I don't want Moyes out but I would love it he would get help on the tactical side where I think he is severly lacking. Round is not doing the trick.
 
I would still say that an assistant manager with more tactical sense (i.e. a plan B) would benefit the club and Moyes. I don't want Moyes out but I would love it he would get help on the tactical side where I think he is severly lacking. Round is not doing the trick.

Well Motavation and getting the right players seems to be Moyes' special Ability.

We should of got Peter Reid when we had the chance. (Assistant Manager Job )
 
I really am sick of this glib and smug phrase. It makes out as if we know better than the manager. Lets face it, some of us have played the game to a reasonable standard, some to sunday league, some never at all, but to think that we know better than such a student of the game as DM is rubbish.
Whi knows where DM could take us with extra cash. Lets face it, if we didn't have the horrendous injury crisis (that seems to be lingering with MF) to our better players, we'd still be in the hunt for 4th place again. As it stands we will not be far off the euro places in spite of the crisis. DM has shown that he can buy players of high value (Yak, Mo Fro) and find gems in the bargain basement (Peanut, arteta) and still find a young pup to bring on and develop (coleman) and oversee a youth policy bringing through our own young lads (rodders, vaughan). I fail to see where DM is struggling. Comments like 'he's taken us as far as he can' should be left in the alehouse and uttered by knowfeckalls and titface Lawro.
I feel better now.
 

I really am sick of this glib and smug phrase. It makes out as if we know better than the manager. Lets face it, some of us have played the game to a reasonable standard, some to sunday league, some never at all, but to think that we know better than such a student of the game as DM is rubbish.


I've actually had trials to play for Cardiff/Bristol as a younger lad.


So there.
 
moysie is the best thing to happen to us for 20 years and without him we would now be in the championship,i just hope one day he gets the chance to show what he can do with money,i just hope kenwright does one and lets moysie compete on a fairer level
 
An influx of money really helped Sparky's career....

Every season in EU is one to celebrate but, with the money comes a greater expectation. Be careful what you wish for.
 
Moyes is set in his ways, everton play the game to how he likes it to be played.

his tactics are no different as the likes of megson and alidise.
We may try and look down are noses at teams like stoke,bolton, wolves etc and come out with bullshit like "they dragged us down to their level" that is utter tosh, we play the same way against the top teams as we do aginst the bottom.

Man city and arsenal- we battled hard and played some decent stuff but re watch these games we out worked them, we never outplayed them, as in pass and move.
The only time this season we have sustained good football for any period of time is the first 20 mins against Birmingham.

We have never adressed the winger issue because he wants his players to tuck in and pick up the 2nd ball from the punt.

Its simple direct football that the majority of british managers have in their mindset. football has evolved since the foreign influx and different ideas of how the game should be played, some managers haven't caught up.

If you are happy watching a team battle hard,keep it tight but win the majority of their games. buy your season ticket.
But if you want entertaining pass and move football (not in patches) you will not get that from a david moyes team.

I am not ****ging him off, we have different ideas of how the game should be played. mine differs from his.
 
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Moyes is set in his ways, everton play the game to how he likes it to be played.

his tactics are no different as the likes of megson and alidise.
We may try and look down are noses at teams like stoke,bolton, wolves etc and come out with bullshit like "they dragged us down to their level" that is utter tosh, we play the same way against the top teams as we do aginst the bottom.

Man city and arsenal- we battled hard and played some decent stuff but re watch these games we out worked them, we never outplayed them, as in pass and move.
The only time this season we have sustained good football for any period of time is the first 20 mins against Birmingham.

We have never adressed the winger issue because he wants his players to tuck in and pick up the 2nd ball from the punt.

Its simple direct football that the majority of british managers have in their mindset. football has evolved since the foreign influx and different ideas of how the game should be played, some managers haven't caught up.

If you are happy watching a team battle hard,keep it tight but win the majority of their games. buy your season ticket.
But if you want entertaining pass and move football (not in patches) you will not get that from a david moyes team.

I am ****ging him off, we have different ideas of how the game should be played. mine differs from his.

I'd agree with a lot of that. I think you overplay the bit in bold, though. Go and take a look at that video doing the rounds of Everton v Utd from 1967. You'll see a brand of football played there to your liking. We weren't called the School of Science for nothing.
 

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