In Moyes We Trusted

[Allezfan]

Don't get me wrong Scratchy, I liked your post. I'm just not willing to be that critical.

The highlight above is probably the divining rod on our differing opinions. All finances issues aside, I can't think how Moyes could have gone for it more? I think he works harder than most managers in the Premier League and he got the most out of his players. His strageries all left us scratching our heads at times but he beat himself silly to win every match. I don't think Moyes will sit back and look at his Everton days and think "I wish I had tried harder."

Maybe I'm missing something.

It's not gone for it for more as in 'trying harder' but going for it more in terms of 'being more attacking'. I think there's a general opinion that in our run of five draws in a row, if we'd attacked more and defended less we might have won 2 and lost 3 which would give us more points.

All teams on a limited budget have to sacrifice some ares of the team to beef up others, and we as a team have mostly prioritised defence over attack. You name the top class players we've had who have done best under Moyes and most are relatively deep/defensive players, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines, Coleman, Fellaini, Arteta etc.

The question is whether we would have done more if the balance had been tilted in the other way.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

Well done, agree with 95% of it.

 

[malfosse]

Good post SnS.

 

[carlos21]

Good post SnS.

how is loki today mate.

 

[paulbefc]

I think you'll find United spend more money on signings than us. It may not always be 30 million players but they tend to cost more than we spend. Moyes greatest strength for us has been operating on a limited budget. It's far less limited at United. To me, this ability he has isn't going to be so vital to him at United. There'll be completely different pressures and he'll need to develop other skills to meet those demands whilst competing at the top end of the table and in Europe.

I agree that he will be shopping in a majorly different market to the one from which we got Seamus Coleman, for example, but I see the names we've been linked with and it seems he can pick players from all levels of the game. He doesn't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel at United, but looking at some of those names that we were priced out of, he clearly has all the ability needed to sign the right players at United, for very reasonable prices. His eye for talent clearly isn't limited to bargain basement buys that we're reliant on.

I actually think he'll be an improvement on Ferguson in this regard. Would Moyes have spent £35m on Nani and Anderson? I also think that when he's been given a little room for manoeuvre here (usually through player sales e.g. Bily last January) the football has improved and we've played good attacking football. The lack of constraints on him at United will allow him to play the same way, I expect.

The only real doubt I have about him going to United is when they're playing in the Champions League against, say, Barca at OT. Will he go for it? Will his tactics be good enough? It'll be interesting to see. By the way, I'm not knocking the original piece, it's a great write-up.

 

[scratchnsurf]

I agree that he will be shopping in a majorly different market to the one from which we got Seamus Coleman, for example, but I see the names we've been linked with and it seems he can pick players from all levels of the game. He doesn't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel at United, but looking at some of those names that we were priced out of, he clearly has all the ability needed to sign the right players at United, for very reasonable prices. His eye for talent clearly isn't limited to bargain basement buys that we're reliant on.

I actually think he'll be an improvement on Ferguson in this regard. Would Moyes have spent £35m on Nani and Anderson? I also think that when he's been given a little room for manoeuvre here (usually through player sales e.g. Bily last January) the football has improved and we've played good attacking football. The lack of constraints on him at United will allow him to play the same way, I expect.

The only real doubt I have about him going to United is when they're playing in the Champions League against, say, Barca at OT. Will he go for it? Will his tactics be good enough? It'll be interesting to see. By the way, I'm not knocking the original piece, it's a great write-up.

He can spot a player, no doubt about it and like you say, it'll be interesting for some to see how and if other aspects of his management develop. Someones going to get to say I told you so, one way or the other. Personally, once next season starts I probably won't really pay that much attention, after all I support Everton and there'll be enough questions of our own to consider.

 

[carlos21]

He can spot a player, no doubt about it and like you say, it'll be interesting for some to see how and if other aspects of his management develop. Someones going to get to say I told you so, one way or the other. Personally, once next season starts I probably won't really pay that much attention, after all I support Everton and there'll be enough questions of our own to consider.

evening mate how are you tonight.

 

[Librarian]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-to-be-no-2-at-manchester-united-8659384.html

 

[blarger]

telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10121946/Manchester-United-manager-David-Moyes-handed-60m-transfer-kitty-by-Glazers-to-spend-on-new-players

Manchester United manager David Moyes handed £60m transfer kitty by Glazers to spend on new players

Manchester United’s owners, the Glazer family, are prepared to hand David Moyes a £60 million transfer kitty this summer in order to allow Sir Alex Ferguson’s successor to stamp his personality on the Old Trafford squad.

Moyes is due to return from a family holiday a week on Monday and it is understood that the Scot will then embark on securing his leading transfer targets ahead of the club’s three-week tour of the Far East and Australia, which begins with a friendly against a Singha All-Star XI in Bangkok on July 13.

Moyes is expected to recruit at least three new signings. Everton defender Leighton Baines, Barcelona midfielders Cesc Fàbregas and Thiago Alcantara and Borussia Dortmund forward Robert Lewandowski have all been identified by the club as targets, although interest in Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini has cooled because of his £23 million buy-out clause. United will also be among the interested parties in Gareth Bale should Tottenham be willing to sell the Wales international.

It is unlikely the money will be used to fund a move for former United star Cristiano Ronaldo, although the club will continue to monitor the situation should the Portuguese forward ask to leave Real Madrid this summer. The £80 million fee United received for Ronaldo in 2009 and some prudent summer spending in recent years are part of the reason why United have money to spend now.

The expected departures of Nani and Anderson, and potentially French full-back Patrice Evra, could increase Moyes’s spending power still further, although the £60 million United have earmarked this year is already in excess of anything Ferguson was given in his 26-year reign as manager.

Last summer Ferguson persuaded the Glazers to agree to the £24 million purchase of Robin van Persie from Arsenal and the £17 million signing of Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund. They also came close to the £30 million signing of Brazil international Lucas Moura, before a late swoop by Paris St-Germain. It is thought that £30 million may have been rolled forward as part of this summer’s transfer kitty.

With both Van Persie and Kagawa playing key roles in United’s successful Premier League campaign last season, when the team delivered the club’s 20th league title, the Glazers are seeing the virtue of spending on the pitch, especially with domestic rivals Manchester City, Chelsea and Arsenal all shaping up to spend heavily.

The January signing of Wilfried Zaha from Crystal Palace for £12 million, prior to him being loaned back to the Selhurst Park club, will not impact on Moyes’s £60 million fund.

Although United still have a debt standing in the region of £370 million, the club’s accelerated commercial growth has enabled the Glazers to comfortably meet interest payments on their loans. The financial position has also been buoyed by the world record £53 million-a-year shirt sponsorship deal with Chevrolet owners, General Motors agreed last July – which begins in the summer of 2014 – and a £180 million partnership with Aon for the naming rights of the club’s Carrington training ground. United are also expected to negotiate a kit manufacturing deal with Nike in the next six months that could be worth some £600 million.

 

[Goat]

The financial position has also been buoyed by the world record £53 million-a-year shirt sponsorship deal with Chevrolet owners, General Motors agreed last July – which begins in the summer of 2014 – and a £180 million partnership with Aon for the naming rights of the club’s Carrington training ground. United are also expected to negotiate a kit manufacturing deal with Nike in the next six months that could be worth some £600 million.


/crys

 

[thebluefox]

The financial position has also been buoyed by the world record £53 million-a-year shirt sponsorship deal with Chevrolet owners, General Motors agreed last July – which begins in the summer of 2014 – and a £180 million partnership with Aon for the naming rights of the club’s Carrington training ground. United are also expected to negotiate a kit manufacturing deal with Nike in the next six months that could be worth some £600 million.


/crys

very nice

 

[canuckblue]

A perfect summary of the Moyes years at Goodison.